Are You Ready for Single-payer Healthcare?

Posted on May 6, 2017 by Robert Ringer Comments (68)

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Chalk up another victory for the elephants and one more defeat for the donkeys. Yep, the Republicans have finally managed to get a healthcare bill through the House, and depending upon who you listen to, the bill is anything from a complete Republican sellout to a major move in the direction of freedom and fiscal responsibility.

That said, let’s take a deep breath and set aside all the B.S. and talking points coming from politicians and the media and look at the healthcare puzzle like rational, grown-up folks. The fact is that we’ve had government-controlled healthcare from the time progressives first convinced a significant percentage of the population that the government had an obligation to provide medical services to all citizens. Today, of course, that belief has evolved to mean “all people living in the United States, citizens or otherwise.”

It sounds nice, but as every halfway intelligent, honest adult understands, healthcare is not a right. Every human being is born with only one natural right: the right to freedom. Specifically, that means the right to do whatever he pleases, so long as his actions do not violate the freedom of any other human being.

The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness contains two redundancies. First, technically speaking, you don’t have a right to life. If you did, you could choose to live forever. Good luck to you on your choice, but the reality is that a higher power decides the outcome of that one for you. You do, however, have a right to do anything you please to try to improve your life, which comes under the heading of freedom (or liberty, which is the word used by the Founding Fathers).

Second, the right to happiness is simply one aspect of freedom. You do not have a right to be happy, but you do have a right to pursue happiness (as in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness). The problems start when people come to believe the perverse notion that government (read, “taxpayers”) has an obligation to do whatever it takes to make them happy. Once a society crosses that line, it begins its death spiral, though it can still survive, in the words of Margaret Thatcher, until you “run out of other people’s money.”

Now, back to healthcare. In this day and age of ever-increasing lifespans, healthcare is an issue of life-and-death importance. But it’s important to understand that it has nothing to do with rights. It has to do with compassion.

This may surprise you, but, in theory, I believe in universal, or single-payer, healthcare. That’s right, if I had supernatural powers, I’d see to it that everyone, young and old alike, had access to the best healthcare possible, without having to wait weeks, or even months, to see a doctor or have an operation.

The reason I qualified my statement with “in theory” is because even though I don’t want to see any human being suffer unnecessarily or die from a lack of medical care, I also don’t want the government to be involved in any way, shape, or form in anything as serious as healthcare.

It baffles me why so many people blind themselves to the truth about government. A government is nothing more than a collection of avaricious, power- and money-hungry men and women whom we refer to as “politicians,” and we already know, through firsthand experience, that they not only are untrustworthy, they’re incompetent.

The theoretical single-payer system I envision would be run by experienced, private-industry executives and overseen by a board of directors that would consist of the most prominent accomplished, civic-minded people among us, men and women whose reputations would be beyond reproach. They would get no compensation other than reimbursement for travel and other direct expenses, so you would never need to worry about them basing their decisions on their financial well-being.

Now, back to reality: Do I believe this will ever happen? No, I don’t. The sad reality is that the United States will get single-payer healthcare in the not-too-distant future, but, unfortunately, it will be run by the same avaricious politicians who have been stealing from us since the inception of our nation.

Based on experience, we already know that everything the government touches costs more and delivers less value. Amtrak has always operated in the red. The Post Office has always operated in the red. And politicians don’t even make a pretense of wanting to adopt a breakeven budget for the United States.

Isn’t it ironic that Medicare and Medicaid are going broke (not to mention the transfer-of-wealth program known as Obamacare), yet the government arrogantly believes it can run healthcare for everyone successfully? Absurd, of course, but nevertheless government-run healthcare is on the horizon.

Obama and the rest of the Dirty Dems were well aware that the only way Obamacare could be pushed through was by telling massive lies to the public. Their strategy was that when the system collapsed, they would then make the case that the only way to save people from suffering and death would be to implement a full-blown, single-payer system run by the government. A deceitful plan, to be sure, but a very clever one.

And it was all moving along right on schedule toward its ultimate goal when Chappaqua’s most famous liar found a way to blow the presidential election and Obama’s third term against an opponent whom her supporters looked upon as nothing more than a bad joke. Whereupon the guy pulling her strings hightailed it out of town to Tahiti and began cashing in on the eight-year scam he had so successfully pulled off.

I’d like to be wrong and see the Republicans come up with a miracle and find a way to make healthcare work, but my guess is that Horrible Hillary’s gift to Republicans will only prolong the inevitable: government-run, single payer healthcare.

The irony is that the most famous government-run healthcare debacle, the VA, has been such a disaster that there’s serious talk of turning it over to the free market. I guess the message is that you have to suffer through years of government incompetency before you’re given the freedom to try and better your situation.

P.S. Allow me to close on an obvious note: Given the insoluble healthcare problems in the United States, I believe immigration (not just illegal, but legal) should be cut as close to zero as possible for at least five years. The fact is that there are simply too many people in this country, which puts a strain on all kinds of services. If we can’t afford healthcare for those already living here, why in the world should we add to the problem by bringing in even more people?

All answers to that question are welcomed.

Robert Ringer

+Robert Ringer is an American icon whose unique insights into life have helped millions of readers worldwide. He is also the author of two New York Times #1 bestselling books, both of which have been listed by The New York Times among the 15 best-selling motivational books of all time.

68 responses to “Are You Ready for Single-payer Healthcare?”

  1. texas wolfie says:

    Most of the screaming I have heard from the loon liberals is about de-funding abortion providers. Really? One of the most ridiculous complaints I have ever heard is this: "He got me pregnant!" How about WE got me pregnant?

    • Marte says:

      How about – except in the case of rape – getting pregnant is a CHOICE. Why should you or I pay because some woman chose to get pregnant, but doesn't want to stay pregnant?

  2. Richard Head says:

    Robert:

    It is time to restore individualism.

    Let's get this party started, sir!
    http://www.politicalfolks.com/ideality/

    Best,

    D.I.C.K.

  3. Steve Victor says:

    RJR is correct. The fact is that the Lunatic Left has overarching control of USA: schools K-12, universities, media, civil service, etc., and are better at buying votes than the right.

  4. Scott theczech says:

    Our country has not even begun to address the "disease" of the broken healthcare system, just a few of the symptoms. Again, we spend more than any other G-20 nation on health care (approx. $9,400/year/capita!) with the least beneficial outcomes. So, the actual cost is very high and increasing in compounding fashion.

    The very fact that government is involved in the system at all is testament to the high cost/low value equation. Your idea about a blue ribbon panel from the private sector is an excellent idea, but it is still capitulation to the progressive agenda – a failed agenda agenda may I add. I'd like to suggest a two-tier system established by the private sector which would function something like this: each state insurance commissioner would have regulatory oversight of the providers and insurers in each state. Federal law however would stipulate that for each private insurance policy sold, 5% is added to the premium and forwarded to the second tier (think pre-existing conditions) to cover those folks. Private industry and innovation would deliver, manage and control this system of delivered health care. The 2nd tier folks would be means tested by this private system in a highly efficient method of recovering as much of the cost as possible…after all, everyone should have some skin in the game. This blue ribbon board of which you speak would have broad and general oversight of the system, recommending various course corrections along the way. Hopefully this is a more adult approach to the problem.

  5. Blringer37 says:

    As usual, Mr. Ringer, you got it right. I recall reading your book, Looking out for #1, long ago as a young adult and thinking at the time that here is someone who finally makes sense. I applied many of your ideas in my life. I tried to avoid getting entangled in the government's web as much as I could and I was largely successful. However, at one point I pushed the edges of the envelope on my taxes ( nothing illegal, just edgy) and watched in utter astonishment as the government ignored the law and pursued me relentlessly even though I had done nothing illegal. I was finally able to avoid complete financial ruin by settling with them, though in truth I owed them zero. I find it completely incredible that anyone could want the entity that runs the post office and Amtrak and the Veteran's Administration (just a few examples) could ever wish to have these same folks in charge of our healthcare system. I want less government, not more, but I am clearly in the minority these days. I agree that we need to address our immigration problems, but I disagree with your idea that we should cease all immigration for five years. I think we need standards and limits for legal immigration and only admit those who can show that they can support themselves (as many other countries do) and also that they have skills and/or resources to contribute to our country.

    • Good thinking! Why would a country want anyone who is a drag on society? Yes, positive contributors only. And yes maybe those who at least can take care of themselves.

      • Jean says:

        Many years ago, when immigration laws were being enforced, there was an ICE raid on a factory. The local law enforcement officers noticed that most of the workforce were being routed onto the buses. Across the street, there was a group of people from the neighborhood, huddling around a fire started in a trashcan, drinking cheap beer, smoking Kools and making snide comments about the illegals. One LEO made the statement, "I think we're deporting the wrong people."

        While I agree that, like Norway (Bernie Sanders' dream country), we need to set standards for immigration that excludes low and no-skilled applicants and also deports those who refuse to acculturate within 5 years, we have our own home-grown permanent underclass that has been a drain on society since the Great Society was established. And don't think for a moment they don't add significantly to the cost of health care for the rest of us. Who pays for the emergency room treatment of gunshot and knife wounds? Who covers ob/gyn costs every time a single woman decides to have a(nother) baby? And who is responsible for pediatric care once the baby is born? And which demographic is most likely to develop type 2 diabetes, heart trouble and kidney failure, but who have no incentive (such as costs) to make lifestyle changes that would prevent those things?

  6. IHeartDagney says:

    There are two steps needed to fix these problems (and many others not mentioned). Both are under the radar and in the works. However, they need to be much more visible for people to advertise and PUSH. Number one is the Article V Convention of the States to propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on the Senate and Congress. This will bring our government back to being run as it was intended, a CITIZEN government. For more information, read Mark Levin's book, "The Liberty Amendments". I believe 11 states have jumped on this bandwagon so far.

    Number two is the FairTax Act. This law would eliminate the IRS and repeal the 16th amendment. If federal taxation becomes voluntary on the purchase of new items, ALL the awful, awesome power of taxation BY FORCE would leave Washington DC and be placed right where it belongs. In OUR hands. Let's be clear, a flat tax does not change the dynamic of power as the FairTax does.

    If just those two things happen, we would see an American Renaissance like we can only dream about now.

    • ERyc says:

      These two steps would go a long way toward solving what I see as the Number One challenge we are faced with as a nation: the rampant deficit spending at the Federal level (witness the last eight years wrt the two centuries prior). This could not have happened if we were still on "the gold standard", but our dollar is based on thin air and is only as good as "we the people" hold it to be. The third step should be a return to "the gold standard" ( or silver or platinum) and our economy would stabilize in a heart beat! And while you are at it, get the Feds to pull their fingers out of all things that the Founding Fathers never envisioned their job to be (like healthcare, postal service, Amtrak, etc.)

  7. Ivan says:

    Here in California, rents and prices of homes keep rising with no end in sight. The demand is up probably because of immigration. The government approval of more buildings continues despite a water shortage. If one cannot afford the higher rents or can't afford a home, government is there to subsidize from programs such as section 8 and many others. I can't agree more that a root cause of our costs come from too much immigration. The American way of life probably would return back to normal if immigration was controlled. A moratorium on immigration for at least a few years would be great idea.

  8. Charles B says:

    What we could do is make it a law that all illegals have one mandatory treatment at a VA hospital. Afterwards they would hotfooted back to their country in record time. Word would spread and we wouldn't even have to build a wall to keep out illegals.

    • patg2 says:

      One treatment to save them from immediate death, stabilize them, and send them home. No medical care for any other condition.

  9. larajf says:

    The Federal government has been providing healthcare for decades…..to veterans. All you had to do was see how poorly they handled that to know that they could never provide it for all the citizens. Friends who were veterans told me horror stories. One had his wisdom teeth removed with minimal numbing because anesthetic was considered a luxury for a basic procedure. One friend received vaccines four times because they kept losing the records that he'd received them. He definitely has health problems now.
    And I'm with you, RJR, on halting all immigration until all the legitimate citizens that are here are taken care of first with all the money that they are paying.

    • Mike says:

      The majority of veterans report that they receive good healthcare. The vast majority are against privatization. The main complaint is the waiting.
      Your story doesn't wash.

      • larajf says:

        Where do you get your numbers? I have five personal experiences. How many do you have?

      • Yes, during the 90s in Michigan, I received excellent health care at the VA. Couldn't have been better, and excellent doctors. Everything I needed, I got or was offered. Ann Arbor and Detroit, no long waits.I know, tho, not every VA is like that, unfortunately.

        • Jim Hallett says:

          I'm not a Vet but know many who are, and the VA in Ann Arbor was rated 2nd best in the nation. Not so sure the one in Detroit is all that hot, but not much in Detroit IS!

  10. Peter Guske says:

    As the Tortoise knows, the fact that government programs run in the red, inefficiently and with enormous waste and corruption is irrelevant to most people. Speaking from my experience of being directly involved in healthcare I can tell you that most people are not motivated in the least by the constant and consistent stories of Medicare/Medicaid fraud and abuses. In fact, they like it. Its true, gross inefficiency and waste is not something that outrages people in least, with regard to government programs.

    • Andrew John says:

      I;m outraged but who can you go to that will 1) listen and 2) actually do something about.

      Most govt appointed managers never get fired from their competency. They tend to get promoted!!!!

      • texas wolfie says:

        Exactly, remember the "Peter Principal"? People get promotions based on nepotism, race, sex but never for good work. Time on the job is paramount even if you are crappy worker with a poor attitude. When all is said and done, lots of government jobs are manned with people who have been elevated to highest level of incompetency.

  11. Michael Ponzani says:

    That's right, too many people here jumping on the free lunch wagon.

  12. Bill Laux says:

    Democrat solutions to anything remind me of the fisherman who shouted "Help! My boat is leaking! It's filling with water!" A Democrat answers "Well, dummy, cut some holes in the bottom and let it drain out!" Fisherman, a short time later, "I did, and now there is more water than before!" Democrat: "Well, dummy, you didn't cut enough holes!"

  13. Guest says:

    Turn it over to experienced private industry executives? After 30 years consulting in the corporate world ( about 30 Fortune 500's, including some Fortune 10 corps), I can attest that most corporate managers are as incompetent, dishonest and greedy as politicians, and many are outright psychopaths. Only small and medium sized businesses hold managers accountable, the large ones are just as bad as governments, and they're getting worse every day. Just look at all the corruption at the big banks, bi pharma, etc. Who else is funding the government corruption? Shrink the government, yes, but at the same time we have to break up the big corporations, and have real competition and accountability.

    • texas wolfie says:

      I agree, the CEO of United airlines is as dumb as a rock. He couldn't get out of a closet if you handed him the blueprints and yet he is running an airline. Amazing!

    • patg2 says:

      I keep telling libertarians that when a company that supplies a necessity of life becomes sufficiently large, it becomes indistinguishable from government. The only difference is, you can sometimes hold the government accountable to the Constitution. Good luck with that, with a private company. But libertarians as a rule cannot see what I am trying to tell them.

  14. Andrew John says:

    I agree with you Robert. Health care is NOT a right. Never has been.

    In you believe in the Biblical story of Adam & Eve, when God sent them both out from the Garden of Eden he didn't include a health care plan.

    So it would seem that the ultimate arrogance of man is to pretend to be God by offering free (not really) govt mandated health care. If a person chooses not to have health care, it is there right to do so and to also suffer the consequences of such a decision.

    That said, health care should be market driven so that it will be cheaper to afford.

  15. I live among American Veterans here in the Philippines, and I am one. Many are "rich" in this economy. And it is because they successfully lie about their health conditions, and their lies are supported by their physicians, and the VA accepts their lies and pays for what doesn't exist! I wonder what percentage of the money the VA pays out would be reduced if they only paid for the truth. A great deal, I believe. ,

  16. Jim Hallett says:

    Govt.-run healthcare to any degree is a disaster, but you are right, Robert, the single-payer universal health care albatross will become a reality – probably just as soon as the next Dumbocrat reaches the White House. Ever since Franklin Deceitful Roosevelt convinced America they were a Nanny State and needed govt. to provide for them, people have bought into the notion (and often use the examples of other socialist countries to support their case). Govt. is the most immoral, incompetent and inefficient institution we have, so their involvement in health care (really started with LBJ and the Medicare/Medicaid bills) is responsible for the high costs, lack of competition, reduced access, etc. GET THEM OUT! Compassion has nothing to do with it, either. One person's difficulty in no way places a demand on others to bail them out. People are generous and often help their neighbor, etc., but to dictate govt. steal from part of the population to help the other is still just theft . . . and besides it being immoral, is also very inefficient.

  17. texas wolfie says:

    Mr. Ringer, I think I have heard a most insightful comment from my former congressman. He says the reasons for immigration are two fold: #1 they pay in to our social security system without any hope of ever receiving benefits. In other words, my congressman told me the Social Security would kaput without these donors. # 2 The Chamber of Commerce has the ear and the votes of most of the politicians in Washington. They are a force to reckoned with. They insist on cheap help for their hotels and eateries. Also the tech companies here in Texas love their guest Asian workers. Lower salaries, no benefits and no matching 401 Ks. Whats not to love?

  18. GHM says:

    Has anyone looked into what makes conditions so bad south of the border that people will go to any desperate lengths to escape north? People do not generally want to leave their homes and communities unless driven out by major stress such as wars or no possible way to gain a living. Does it have anything to do with US trade practices? Could adjustments be made so that farm products and manufactured goods might provide jobs and living wages enabling would be illegal immigrants to stay home? Don't know. Just wondering.

    • Ivan says:

      Is NAFTA working on less immigration to the US? That was part of the intent. Trump is stepping in to renegotiate. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

  19. GaMbaJd says:

    I look at from a different perspective, the one from the MBA in my Login ID. Actually, from the perspective of my FIRST business class taken nearly a half century ago. In that class we were taught that a free enterprise system required COMPETITION which of course requires that of customers to choose between competing vendors OR PRODUCTS.
    The Federal and State governments have already eliminated those conditions when it comes to the medical industry, thus any first year business student of my generation could tell you medicine does not fit in the free enterprise system for that reason alone.
    But that is just one reason. While not spelled out in that course, the ability to choose implied the ability to make an INFORMED choice. That just doesn't exist in the medical industry.
    You hear a lot of absolute BULL SH*T about not cumming between the patient and the doctor. Put another way, the argument is that no one should PROTECT you from your doctor. Therefore the Pure Food and Drug act should be repealed, along with the FDA and Federal and State Licensing boards. THIS would put medicine closer to the free enterprise model.
    Now throw in the half lies from people such as Mr. Ringer. In this case baseless assumption that "The right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" EXISTS. Our Nation was predicated on the, at the time, commonly held belief that those so called RIGHTS were given (endowed) by their CREATOR. The government now says that this belief is not constitutional, therefore legally speaking there is no justification for asserting that ANY rights exist during any discussion regarding the various governments in the United States.
    In short, the reason that health care is such a mess in this country it the insane, half a**ed way we approach the topic. But, like most problems in America, there IS a simple solution.
    Go back to the free enterprise version. ALLOW the citizens to CHOOSE how to spend their money. If they CHOOSE to spend it on drugs, tobacco, unhealthy foods etc. LET THEM. And do not INTERFERE with the free marked forces by artificially inflating the cost of drugs by making them illegal or regulated by the medical industry. Go back to the way it was at the time the nation was created. Opium was just as legal and unregulated as alcohol and tobacco. AND JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, do not FORCE them to spend it on medical care to treat the side affects of those choices. And do not FORCE others to pay for the treatment either. Just let nature take it's course.
    This process is known as Natural Selection or Darwinism. Without it, no form of life higher than the amoeba would exist.
    In addition to lowering the cost of medicine by 50% or more, it would also greatly reduce the harm the INSANE US policies are doing to Mexico and Latin America by depriving the drug cartels of the source of their power, money from US Tax Payer funneled thru the junkies we keep alive via our inflated cost health care system who use the welfare money they receive to by their drugs from the cartels at obscenely inflated prices.
    This concept, reducing the power of the Government, could be used in other areas as well, since many, if not most, of the problems in this country were CREATED by government.

    • patg2 says:

      A lot of inaccuracies in what you said, but I don't have time to talk about those. I'll just point out that we DO have a God-given right to be left alone, which equates to the right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, AND PROPERTY LAWFULLY ACQUIRED. The failure to include this is what is behind the "entitlement" system where everyone else is "entitled" to the fruit of your labor but you. Darwinism is a religion that leads to suffering and death, and completely supports the socialism and communism that destroys everyone in sight.

  20. patg2 says:

    OK, here's the thing. There IS a free enterprise system of health care. It's called alternative medicine, and includes herbs, supplements, acupuncture, etc. etc. etc. It is inexpensive and highly effective. The one thing it lacks is surgery. But the government (both parties) is doing everything in its power to stifle it. Elected officials have all been bought out by pharmaceutical companies and Big Agra. The government-funded and licensed health care system feeds poisons to people because they make money that way, by selling people yet MORE poisons when they start to show the effects of being poisoned, and people are dumb enough to fall for it. And there are situations where they can FORCE it on you against your will and over your objections. I can guarantee without even looking at it, that the Republican bill is just as bad as ACA, because it does not provide for people to be allowed to receive alternate care. Any discussion that doesn't recognize how DEADLY standard medical care is for nearly EVERYONE (even if in a few instances it prevents death), doesn't begin to address the problem.

    Hey, we LIVED the way in which they PHYSICALLY FORCE a patient to receive poisons, against his will and behind his back. If you go to the hospital to have surgery, look out! Getting away unscathed seems to be a virtual impossibility, even when the surgery is successful. We are still dealing with the consequences a year and a half later, and we don't know when it will end.

    Let's look at all sides of this picture. Those who desire alternative care, and pay for it out of their own pockets, are being ignored in this entire debate. We still can't even afford the alternative care, but I sure don't want the government providing for it, because that would only corrupt it, like government corrupts everything it touches. I don't know the answer, but perhaps private charity (which could actually afford to pay for inexpensive alternative care) could pay for those who cannot. There are several groups of Christians who share medical expenses and avoid insurance, but even they don't have a problem with paying for each other's poisons, which is why I'm not involved with one.

    • Jose Jackson says:

      And if a patient declines surgery, doctors can seek court ordered treatment.

      • patg2 says:

        Thankfully, that doesn't happen often. But if it happened to me, and I really believed I should not have surgery, the doctors would regret they ever did that. They would never be free of litigation. As it stands, we had doctors giving unwanted medications behind our backs, and I'm looking for a good malpractice lawyer, and boy do we have a case!

  21. vietnamvet1971 says:

    I agree…just more Government manipulation..side show to fool the people one more time…the Gimme-ment can NOT run or operate any agency effectively.Yes the VA system is a Gimme-ment run operation look how GREAT that is working.

  22. Mike says:

    Are we in for terribly run, single payer healthcare? Possibly. But the fact of the matter is, as any "halfway intelligent, honest adult" understands, human beings have collectively taken care of their sick for as long as we have been human. At no time in history has a community of humans looked at one of its members that was ill and responded, "sucks to be you". So, Mr. Ringer, how are YOU going to take care of the sick in your community?

    • Stephan F says:

      @ Mike

      It appears that you don't believe that Robert (and I) are not our brother’s keeper.

      So I'll leave you with this: to paraphrase the quick & nimble Eric Peters, whatever my health problems are, they do not impose an obligation on others at the point of a gun. However, this doesn’t mean others aren’t free to help me, if they wish to.

  23. Lana says:

    If all illegals stop receiving Medicare/Medicaid it would put a ton of money back where it belongs. Why the government is involved in our healthcare is amazing. Doctors & hospitals should treat patients and make decisions regarding healthcare. Insurance companies should sell insurance. They should have no decision on healthcare. Each state should have a committee to prevent gouging. The government also has no business in education or housing. States should be responsible for these items. The Fair Tax Act eliminating the IRS is the best thing that could happen to this country.
    It would be wise to pass a law that each law passed could only pertain to the one item. That would prevent future Obamacare BS being passed with things other than healthcare. In other words, a tax bill only about taxes, a health bill only about health….etc. It would prevent 2,000 pages crap from being voted in.
    We could also save a ton of money if a law as passed that when they leave office, the money stops. When was the last time you left a job and they said, "Oh, we'll just continue to pay you as long as you live". And, once out of office, why do they need secret service???? Money spent every where for nonsensical reasons.

    • In the Philippines, I go to a doctor for $10 a visit max. He or she may or may not give me a prescription, but I don't need one for anything I would ever use. In the States I had to see a Doc for a prescription and pay $50 to $100 a pop, to get a prescription, and then overpay for the drug! What a ripoff! And, why do some, many, all? Doc believe they ought to be RICH? In olden days, Canadian Docs didn't assume that.

  24. AVERY HORTON says:

    Robert:

    I believe we have 3 natural rights:

    1) The right to breathe. If you are alive, you cannot not breathe.

    2) The right to eliminate. If something goes into your mouth, sooner or later something will come out the other end. You cannot not eliminate.

    3) The right to do whatever it takes not to be eaten by another creature. Fight or flight.

    You really do not have a “right” to freedom. If you look at the natural world, force always rules. There are “turf wars” amongst the animals.

    Freedom is only a concept or a belief. We are born “free” but sooner or later we are taught to obey and that’s when freedom ends.

    And I do agree, we do not have a right to healthcare nor do we have a right to make one person pay for another.

  25. TN Ray says:

    Privately managed single payer healthcare. Excellent idea should be a no brainer to our "politicians" if interested in what's best "for the people". True, they are incompetent, but they know their "power" and money making opportunities are greater if government (they) remains in control. Less government, not more, would be great. At least we should be glad we don't get all the government we pay for.

  26. Phil says:

    Honestly, I think it is time to either leave this country and live somewhere else, or accept its obvious coming demise and adjust mentally, spiritually, and financially to the challenge of pursuing happiness when 70% of your fellow citizens have chosen to create a cesspool of a society.

  27. Rick G says:

    There are way way way too many immigrants in this country, and it can only get worse. They don't have to learn our native language English, and don't have to know anything about our history or culture. During Hussein's dictatorial reign, the administration was running radio ads in Mexico, saying "Come to America, we have food stamps". We are getting to be like a Third World country. This is all a Democratic strategy of packing in as many immigrants as possible, legal or otherwise, to get so many new Democratic voters that it will be impossible to elect a Republican again.

    Obamacare is just one stepping stone toward universal health care in this country. It, like all other government experiments, is heading for a disaster. Anything the government attempts will only end up in collapse and failure. Whatever the Republicans put in its place will only end up in failure. And it too will be up for repeal and replace years down the road. All government programs right now are near collapse, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. They are too costly and ineffectively run. They are doomed to fail. Yes, we will have a single payer system in this country and it is right around the bend. It, too, will end up in collapse and failure. I currently support repeal and no replace on Obamacare. This is best for the country.

  28. Rick G says:

    Here is my take on a single payer healthcare system. I am 100% against it period!

    Here is what it would be. At first, it would pay 100% of everything involved in one's healthcare. Just like Medicare in its infancy back in the mid-sixties. Then, the system would be so heavily overburdened costwise, it would gradually pay a smaller and smaller percentage of one's healthcare costs while paying for some things and not for others. Currently, Medicare pays up to 80% of seniors' costs and their supplemental insurance picks up the remaining percentage. This is what you can expect in one form or another under a single payer system. Once, a single payer system is implemented, there would be a huge influx of people pouring in wanting "treatment" for all kinds of silly stuff not normally requiring professional treatment. And there would not be enough physicians to handle them all. With the big demand for free healthcare, one may have to wait for months, maybe even years for an appointment. This is what it will be like and that may be just the beginning. A big disaster indeed!

  29. Wallace says:

    Awesome notion Mr Ringer. Maybe you could run for office. it is time to clean that swamp.

  30. Jay says:

    A. For fear of excluding those that may have the ability to provide answers.

  31. Reality Seeker says:

    "P.S. Allow me to close on an obvious note: Given the insoluble healthcare problems in the United States, I believe immigration (not just illegal, but legal) should be cut as close to zero as possible for at least five years."

    Amen.

    As you've stated before in a previous article: Trump can't make everything better and everyone happy no matter what changes he makes to healthcare. Somebody is going to be pissed at Trump no matter what he does. Just look at the facts: the ignorant masses love collectivism, so collectivism has gone too far and there's no walking it back from the inevitable Humpty-Dumpty moment.

    At this point in time America is an empire; all President Trump can do now is roll back some of the worst aspects of Obamacare. That's all. The President is doing a good job at slowing down the expansion of the "swamp"; however, there is a BIG difference in slowing the filling of the swamp and actually "draining" the swamp. Just like there's a difference at making some good changes to a deal and actually making a good deal. Trump may have mastered the art of the deal in business, but not in Washington —- not yet.

    So far, Trump is graded a B- …. And he sure as shit is better than Heinous Hillary. But I have yet to see a good deal. Trump's tax proposal would be a good deal, however, I doubt it gets passed in the Senate. Moreover, the US budget deficit is rising back above one trillion by my calculations. This means the massive credit expansion which began under President Reagan shall continue under President Trump. This means trouble. What is going to happen is an economic catastrophe.

    Finally, astrophysicists have come up with a new theory: it's called "The Big Rip".

    "In physical cosmology, the Big Rip is a hypothetical cosmological model concerning the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the matter of the universe, from stars and galaxies to atoms and subatomic particles, and even spacetime itself, is progressively torn apart by the expansion of the universe at a certain time …"

    The above theory is one that sounds a lot like my economic theory on US credit expansion. I'm borrowing the term and calling my economic theory The Big Rip.

    Lastly: buy gold. Buy silver. Buy extra food, water and medications. Buy guns and ammo. This may be the last year that gold and silver is affordable for a long time.

    Have faith.

    • Phil says:

      I like the Have Faith admonition. As I get older, its importance to overall happiness becomes more clear. And if you enjoy reading the Bible, there is more wisdom there than in all of the Ph.D. dissertations I ever read.

      • Reality Seeker says:

        Currently, I'm reading the Bible daily. If you read for just fifteen minutes per day, it'll take just a little over a year to read all 66 books. I have been reading the Bible on and off on my own since the age of six.. Of course, there is very little understood at that young age. Everytime that I reread the Bible I discover new and fascinating concepts. Of course, without some PH.D. dissertations and some excellent seminary study I would have not been able to draw the erudite conclusions on this vast subject. For example, I'm working on a theory that the Exodus actually took place at or near the beginning of a Dark Age which spanned four centuries. Most people think the Dark Age as happening after the collapse of Rome. No. There were others. The most interesting Dark Age for me is the one that happened sometime in the latter part of the Bronze Age during the Exodus.

        I actually very much enjoy some of the new discoveries made by anthropologists, archaeologists and professors of classical and ancient history. My Grandfather was a museum curator for the Long Island Historical Society, and as a young boy I was his assistant after school and on summer vacation; therefore, I was exposed to so much more than I can write about here. But suffice to say that Washington University, Yale, Oriental and many other institutions of higher learning have uncovered some amazing finds. And more so, recently.

        The Internet has allowed unparalleled access to the best and brightest the would has to offer. And that's a good thing. There's no excuse for anybody who has spare time to not learn something new everyday.

        • Paul Herring says:

          Interesting comments here, Reality Seeker. We've spoken before in this forum. Yes, reading the Bible is a very good idea. And equally yes, more wisdom is available there than all other books put together. As you realise, this is because it's Gods word to mankind.
          Sadly though, only a few, relatively speaking, have read/are reading it. The Bible isn't just a book of Jewish history. Its principles are timeless, and if applied always work, every time, everywhere. So much so that our mores, values and standards have been derived from the Law given to Israel through Moses. Jesus expanded on it and said that the whole law was based on two things: love of God and love of neighbour. If just those were applied we would have almost no problems on Earth despite the imperfections of us all.
          Just as importantly, Robert's posts here, while well meant, can be quite negative. By contrast, the Bible tells us that we can rejoice because when we see the bad things occurring on earth, prophesied by Jesus, being fulfilled it means 'our deliverance is getting near.' The 'our' means anyone who is prepared to do things God's way.
          Reality Seeker, you regularly urge us to buy gold, buy silver, buy guns. But that won't save our system. It won't save us either. But God's purpose is to end this system and replace it with a better one of His making. Only then will we see the kind of world God originally purposed come to fruition. Only then will mankind enjoy the peace and security we all yearn for.

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