
On Running “the Most Electable Candidate”
Even after three years of thugocratic government, there are still many conservatives and libertarians who cannot bring themselves to believe that Barack Obama is anything more than a “big-spending liberal” who is simply misguided. True, some have finally thrown in the towel and sparingly use words like socialist and socialism to describe Obama and his policies, but terms like communism and dictatorship are uttered only by those whom the establishment considers to be extremists.
Much to my fascination, most conservative media pundits continue to scratch their heads and insist that “Barack Obama is just in over his head” when talking about his “failed policies.” The idea that he is actually trying to destroy the last vestiges of the free market and freedom in America is such a radical thought that their mainstream minds will not allow them to even consider it.
But, in the end, Obama’s motives don’t really matter. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that he really is just a lazy, unqualified dunce who is totally devoid of leadership skills. Even if that were the case, the bottom line is the same, i.e., that he has spent the first three years of his presidency primarily focused on three tasks:
- Pushing Obamacare through Congress against the will of the American people.
- Piling on as many economy-killing regulations as possible.
- Getting reelected, primarily by conjuring up hatred toward the rich.
Now, with elections less than a year away, BHO has shifted most of his efforts to task number three — getting reelected. He’s laid out his strategy for all to see, and it’s clear that he intends to wage a vile campaign straight from the sewers of Chicago. Not the business-as-usual dirty tricks and lies that are par for the course in most political campaigns, but really slimy stuff that has its roots in the criminal world of community organizing.
What’s so disconcerting about this is that Republicans (1) have fielded the worst group of candidates of my lifetime and (2) they have a large number of very strong, highly principled, appealing candidates who are not running. Ten that come quickly to mind are Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Jim DeMint, Mitch Daniels, Mike Pence, Sarah Palin, John Thune, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio (who instead will be anointed as the vice presidential candidate).
I believe that any of these candidates (yes, including Sarah Palin) could have beaten Barack Obama, and, once in office, all of them would have done a good, even great, job of cutting the size of government, rolling back job-killing regulations, lowering taxes, and getting the country back to its Constitutional foundation.
In South Carolina last week, Newt Gingrich admitted that he “isn’t the perfect candidate” but is “a lot more conservative than Mitt Romney and a lot more electable than anybody else.” In their zeal to topple the Obama regime, Republicans have become obsessed with the idea of electability.
But their emphasis is misplaced. What they should be focused on is finding a candidate who not only has conservative principles, but can be trusted to stick to those principles throughout the campaign and beyond, because the most principled candidate would be the most electable candidate.
Unfortunately, Republicans never seem to believe that. After all, it’s only through the grace of Jimmy Carter that Ronald Reagan managed to win the presidency in spite of the Republican establishment’s unhappiness with his being the party’s nominee. Republicans feel much more comfortable with names like Dole, Bush (1 & 2), and McCain.
As a result, it appears that it may now be down to Romney and Gingrich. Gingrich would be a great president if he governed according to (most of) what he’s been saying on the campaign trail. But that’s a huge if.
Remember, Obama still has the entire mainstream media not only supporting him, but blatantly lying to the public in an effort to continue the ruse that he is a thoughtful, self-critical, mainstream, patriotic American who is being thwarted by a mean-spirited Republican Congress. Never mind that Democrats controlled the House and Senate through the first two years of his socialist policies, and that the Senate is still controlled by Democrats.
Obama may increasingly try to sound as though he’s a moderate, but no one — either on the right or the left — seriously believes that. The reason nearly half of the voting public still gives him a favorable rating is not because they believe he’s a centrist. On the contrary, it’s because they want more redistribution of wealth and they realize that he’s determined to make that happen.
Which is why Republicans cannot win if they try to Romneyize or McCainize their positions. The conventional wisdom is wrong regarding this issue. Independents, who, as usual, will decide the 2012 election, will be much more inclined to vote for a highly principled candidate with whom they may disagree on a number of issues than for another phony conservative.
If there were any doubts about what the dirty Dems have in store for a RINO Republican nominee, they should have vanished after their early shot across Mitt Romney’s bow — the “Mitt versus Mitt” ad that posits Romney’s candidacy as “the story of two men trapped in one body.”
Early on, I didn’t believe that BHO and the Dems would actually try to win the 2012 election by pounding away at the income-inequality theme, because any fool knows that it has nothing to do with the economic problems the United States faces. If anything, focusing on this canard is the cause of the economy’s death spiral, because it motivates politicians to increase taxes, increase regulations, and increase government control over both people and the economy.
Interestingly, Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen, every Republican’s two favorite Democrats, have been urging the Obamessiah to bow out of the 2012 race. Recently, they wrote, “He should abandon his candidacy for reelection in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but, more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president’s accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.”
Yikes! The thought of Hillary, back from the dead, is enough to give conservatives chest pains. With Obama, there is no doubt about who the enemy is. But it would take several years for those smitten with the new and improved happy-face version of Hilla the Hun to come out of their stupor. And by that time she would have enacted every policy BHO wanted to foist on the American public — and then some. (Remember, Hillarycare preceded Obamacare by more than fifteen years.)
Much as I hate to say it, given the alternatives, maybe we’re better off with an unprincipled, flip-flopping Republican in the White House. I mean, it’s not like we’re not used to it. Still, it sure would be nice if someone with strong and consistent conservative convictions broke through the pack and won the Republican nomination — or ran as a third-party candidate.
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“Republicans (1) have fielded the worst group of candidates of my lifetime.”
Ha ha ha (Gallows humor/laugh) actually, a majority of “Republicans” have rejected Ron Paul and Gary Johnson, who are, by the way, two of the best candidates that money can’t buy.
“Republicans” prefer a pimp, Cain, a lightweight IRS agent, Backmann (sic) a Socialist-Chinese sympathiser, Huntsman, a warmongering Napoleon, Santorum, a legendary Texas conman, Perry— or Ann Coulter’s new favorite, Obamny Romney…..“I think Romney is really what we need right now, a turnaround guy with business experience,” she recently told Glenn Beck…”the reason I would give Romney an edge is he obviously is capable of tricking liberals into voting for him. He is very articulate. He ‑‑ obviously he was elected governor of Massachusetts.”
Ha ha ha…. “Tricking” liberals Ann?— or tricking you? Ha ha ha….Or, rather, the both of you tricking the ignorant masses?
Then, there is Newt: I know of that pudgy hobgoblin quite well; Without going into my friends’ and families’ personal experiences with that sociopath, I can tell you just by looking at his record—as apposed to Ron Paul’s or Gary Johnson’s— that the record should tell you everything you need to know…..Ha ha ha…..(more gallows laughing)
From now on, it’s going to be interesting (and very funny) watching the Sellout-Republicans trade off their morals, and, yes, their very souls as they march off to the voting box, i.e. the gallows.
ah men brother…
Robert Ringer-I am ashamed that you have fallen into the cracks of irrelevancy when you spout off like a good media/industrial/militant complex sheeple and black out the only real candidate not only capable of the job at hand, but also able to defeat Obama,or Hillary and that is RON PAUL!! Where have you been? Have you not followed his straw poll winnings and his huge growing following? It takes people like you to either stand together and support Ron Paul or to delete him from your memory banks and black him out as if he doesn’t exist? You are a brainwashed RINO…I cannot believe you have succumbed to this point of view, I really did think better of you til now!
You Seem to have forgotten Something’ as well. Mr Paul’ Thinks Iran is’ Harmless, That alone’ are the words of a Fool.
“blessed are the peace makers”…do you really think we can control who gets and does not get technology, whether those are nukes or the latest iphone 4? Do you believe Iran is a probable threat? They have at least 100 + missiles pointed at them from Israel, do you really think they will shoot the one they may have been working on for 20 years and shoot it without turning their country into a parking lot? Come on, this is just typical war mongering rhetoric from the same playbook. Bring the soldiers home and protect our homeland, let freedom ring!
barton, see the levin-mccain provision in the current defense appropriations (ha) bill. senate says, “aye”.
posse comitatus was already long dead, but now they’re trying to make it “legal”. then, the soldiers won’t have to bother with changing out of fatigues and into cop uniforms.
they’re bringing them home alright, since, as the senator from sc (oh, the irony) puts it, “…the homeland is part of the battlefield”.
there is an essay, and a vid clip, in the recent weekend edition (dec 3-4) of lewrockwell dot com, about this.
You Have The Wide Spred Voice. Put Forth’ Those Tules, And Convince’ One (1)of above’ To Run, Ect: Saria Polin or’ Jim DeMent. Get on Board, Weigh Ancer, And Push!! STOP just Talking.
I agree that voters will gravitate toward the most principle conservative candidate, if one is available, but I disagree that Newt, the non-conservative, globalist, opportunist is our best hope.
If Cain endorses Newt, we’ll all know that we didn’t really know Cain. He wasn’t qualified to be President, but a Newt endorsement would confirm that he also lacks character and judgment.
Give Michele Bachmann a 2nd look. She’s the real deal; smart, conservative, qualified and PRINCIPLED, thus electable!
She’s our best hope of the candidates who are running and FAR preferable to Christie (better for NJ), Rubio (foreign born parents, just like Obama’ father, ineligible to run for President), Daniels (forget it – another establishment candidate who’d still sit on the bench with Nancy today on climate change!).
Bachmann 2012! Don’t settle for another McCain.
Bachmann cannot be trusted. She voted to extend the Constitution trashing ‘Patriot’ Act & took govt $ while talking against the practice.
Ron Paul is the only true Constitutional conservative running. Paul has been that for over 30 years. Paul has not flip flopped on his stances on the issues. Dr. Paul got the ball rolling for a ‘Fed’ audit. Now that his freedom message has drawn huge national support many imitate him.
Trying to disparage Paul for his stance on the nuke thing is default support for the stupid & disastrous foreign policy of interventionism. Which policy is to a great degree what caused 9-11 & great hatred of the USA in the ME.
Ron Paul has the same foreign policy as the US Founders; non-intervention. If Ron is ‘extreme’ then so were our Founders. Ron is not & neither were the Founders.
Besides all that, as Ron wisely reminds US, the USA is DEAD BROKE!! We can hardly afford our ‘empire’& can definitely cannot afford a foreign policy of intervention & meddling, even if it worked.
If you are a Constitutional conservative, Ron Paul is the only choice. Gary Johnson is also a good man in this regard, but is far behind because of RNC & media prejudice that he’s considering a 3rd party run.
They did the same to Ron last election. Now they let Ron in the ‘debates’ but don’t give him much time.
SamFox
Robert, regarding your last statement, “…— or ran as a third-party candidate.”: if a 3rd candidate ran, Obama would surely win. I hate to say that because I would probably vote for a 3rd candidate because the mule and the elephant will undoubtedly be puppets of big money. I have always tried t vote for the person whom I felt was the best qualified. Unfortunately, most people vote according to what the media dictates.
Plus, as you well know, it is not an election by the people. It is an election by the electoral college (note: I hope some day that changes.).
So, by a 3rd candidate running, there would be a split in the elephant and true conservative vote, leaving the mule with a win.
Okay, so it looks like we’re going to be stuck with another Republican candidate that is a middle of the road sort of person, instead of the list of people that you mentioned we really wish were running. Let’s assume for the moment that it’s going to be Gingrich. The worst thing that Newt or any other candidate could do would be to stay middle-of-the-road with their statements: Why?
Because the Obama campaign is not going to stay middle-of-the-road with anything that they do with this campaign-they’ve already proven that. So the only possibility, and it is still a remote one, is for Newt to tell the truth. Tell the TRUTH, Newt!
Speak the truth of what Obama is trying to do in plain words. Put it all out on the table exactly like it is. Do not make the mistake that McCain made and just dillydally shilly-shally through the whole thing and not really say anything through the whole campaign – that will not get you elected! You have no choice but to come out as a firebrand. The majority of people in this country do not want socialism and communism. The only way you’re going to have people FOR you is to be very clear about what you are FOR. If you plainly speak the truth, you have a chance. If you say things that are so incendiary compared to what the public is used to hearing, it will wake them up and make them listen. There is no time to do otherwise, if Obama is re-elected it is game OVER for this republic.The time is NOW, we have no other time left to do anything else.
Same ol same ol, Robert.
Yes, we are going to waste another election in a Bob Dole, John McCain, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney moment.
How foolish of us.
I agree that Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are the only two sensible choices, with either one at the helm and the other as #2. Unfortunately, the guilt ridden (race and gender), turn the other cheek, “we’ll vote like it’s a popularity contest,” run-of-the-mill Republicans will not go out of their way to elect either. It’s almost as if most of them are somehow mentally defective or something, not being able to see or admit the truth.
This is perhaps the single most important election in the history of the United States, yet there are people who’re still smitten with looks, charm and charisma when they should be concerned about who’s holding a knife to their backs. It still amazes me, the stupidity of people in large groups.
We do not need any more “fundamental change.” What we need is a fundamental return to what this country once was; a self-sufficient, bold, powerful, proud nation of self-sufficient, bold, powerful, proud people. Sadly, we have become the exact opposite.
If neither Ron Paul or Gary Johnson are nominated as the Republican candidate and/or not elected, we may as well just wait for the fat lady to begin singing because it’s all over. The downward spiral this country embarked on after the turn of the 20th century will continue, either faster or slower… but it WILL continue.
Long time reader. Noticed that you have a graphic at the end of your piece that says more than 10,000 words could say. It speaks loudly of the anguish of a nation quickly sliding into the dustbin of once-great-nations. The person’s pain is the pain of any right/real thinking American who is forced to watch the destruction of his homeland without being able to do anything but vote in more of the same thugs.
The character assassination of Herman Cain is criminal. I believe he was the true conservative with the best chance of beating BHO, that is why the left had to get rid of him.
You need to look no further than the attacks on Mr.Cain to see why all of those other appealing candidates chose not to run. It is one thing to defend things you have done, and an entirely different thing to defend yourself against made-up allegations. The others knew this would be their fate, Mr. Cain didn’t know the left was quite that vicious.
Many people are saying they didn’t like Mr. Cain’s response to the allegations. Well, if the allegations are false, and he says they are false, what more can he say? Is he expected to plead guilty and say he was sorry in order to please people?
These charges are nothing more than character assassination, and any conservative candidate would be facing the same thing if they were to run.
citizenkay, Cain said “90% of the ‘Patriot’ Act is right on!”. This is the same PA the Bachmann voted to extend.
Plus Cain was high up in the ‘Fed’ organization. How does one get that high up in the ‘Fed’ mess without being a trusted ‘Fed’ insider?
I WAS a fan of Cain’s till I did what many apparently don’t. More research. Same for Bachmann. She broke my hear, so to speak, when I found out she voted to extend the PA.
Ron Paul is the only one we can trust to actually cut burroacracies. Ron’s consistent 30+ year record should speak for itself.
But Ron gets hammered by bags of hammers because he has the same foreign policy as the US Founders. Shows that far to many have been listening to fringe media & not doing their home work.
Don’t let the RNC & fringe media fool ya. Ron IS the only true conservative running.
Also don’t get fooled by those who are trying to start yet another ME war, in Iran, that we cannot afford. The military industrial complex supporters in politics & fringe media are again pounding their propaganda war drums. Please don’t let them fool you, again.
SamFox
Robert is right that we, as Conservatives (if we really are), should tell the public exactly who we are, and what we believe. Only the Left has forever had to pretend to be something other than what they are, in order to get elected. (They’ve come more out of the closet lately, as the Socialist, even Communist, agendas have come into vogue.)
As much as I’d like to give the “answer” to what we should do right now, I can’t truthfully say what that is. I like Newt for his sometimes-fearless assaults on the Left, but then there are Freddie and Fannie, Individual Healthcare Mandates, the Pelosi Commercial. And Romney is nothing more than a Republican. (The term RINO is a rendundancy, as most elected Republicans, at least, are clearly CINO’s!)
I do agree with Robert, however, that what both WE and our candidates should always do is TELL THE TRUTH, and stop the charade of tryint to “trick” people into voting for us. That, Ann (Coulter), is called lying…and that is not what WE are about. What WE believe in – true traditional American values (the Constitution, Freedom, Minimum Taxation, Free Enterprise, the traditional Family, and a firm belief in God) – is still what the majority of our countrymen believe…and will support!
As usual, Robert rings true with his accuracy and uncanny ability to pinpoint the issues and relate them to reality, in this pathetic case, Obama. As a former Marine and Vietnam veteran I am repulsed by this president’s job performance. His “change” is coming back to (literally) haunt those who were swayed by this man and voted for him, me not being among them! To think of the millions of Vets who have sacrificed so much for this country to have to see its demise being so undermined by the very principles of socialism, communism and all other “isms” that they fought against…and died for…and lost their limbs and body parts for…sickens me. What I can’t also believe however, is…”Where’s the Republicans, Independents, political players in this (once) great nation?” This entire nation should be up in arms. I feel many Americans are also “asleep at the wheels of liberty and freedom”. I’m pissed and very disappointed in American humankind right now. Is our individual and collective fight gone? Where’s OUR balls? I want to carry a barf bag around with me I’m so disgusted with the status quo. Hey, it’s not just Obama, it’s the worthless grown up hippy morons who make up his administration; his gang of idiots are partners in the crime of all time…Dismantling the (overall, entire) greatness that
America has always been…paid for in collective, dedicated blood. Wake up America, wake the hell up and smell the dictatorship consuming us. It’s so obvious you can smell it.
Robert, why don’t you tell us why you think Ron Paul isn’t — or shouldn’t be? — at least as electable and principled as those you named, ignoring him?
I don’t get why you don’t endorse him. All those other potential candidates know no more about the economy than those who actually are running or the Dems. All those other potential candidates are for war.
Why must we yearn for — no, FANTASIZE about — what we don’t have, rather than support the one man who really would “vote for us”?
“Electability”? YOU have an opportunity through your columns to help swell the numbers of awakened voters who CAN elect Ron Paul.
Why aren’t you?
Lotta cognitive dissonance here.
I’m with you GrayCat. Ron Paul is the only true hope we have now. If we get the usual RNC big govt shill, from either ‘side’ of the isle, I doubt the USA will survive.
I am not sure that we can survive 4 more years of big brother govt. We have reams of regulation, to much taxation, over spending & ponzi borrowing to cover the short fall & the ‘Patriot’ Act. That’s bad enough. But now McCain & some other fool want to further trash the Constitution by calling the US a battlefield & giving the POTUS powers to arrest US citizens & skip the Bill Of Rights.
Ron Paul is electable. Google trends show us that.
Ron was asked by a Fox ‘News’ shill “Electability. Do you have any Sir?” Ron replied as follows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNhR_I_fT6w
Ron ate this Fox clown’s lunch.
SamFox
Marko Rubio has the EXACT SAME PROBLEM that Obama has–his parents were not citizens at the time of his birth, so he does not qualify as a Natural Born Citizen.
Then, oh.’bout June or July, when the lame stream media has printed all the lies, assaults and embarrasments it can think of about our guy, while Obummer keeps unemployment and compensation high enough to keep the serfs just up off the dirt floor, he’ll reconcile maybe a pipeline, a bit of drilling, ease up on fracking, maybe even open up 2 or 3 acres of ANWR, just enough to create a million or 2 jobs, things’ll look rosey for November, but once he’s tricked all the numbskulls into re-electing him, he’s already figured out how to stop it all dead in its tracks, only this time he doesn’t want polite getting in their faces, oh, no, he wants a class war with real live KILLIN’ so he don’t ever have to worry about getting elected to anything ever again. But then, what’s a dumb 62 year old small-town hick with a 40 year old associates degree in electronics tech know? Nah, youse guys are all smarter’n me, y’all got it all figgered out! Good Luck!
Oh, by the way, reunion, I found “The Law”, I think at Ludwig von Mises, downloaded, printed and bound it and just started reading it. Perfect read after googling “Austrian Economic Theory”.
good. mises org is a tremendous resource.
paul is neither conservative, nor republican. for him, “republican” is just the cover. yet many persist in judging it, self-servingly, and parasitically “borrowing” the book. paul is nominally republican because the 2-party cartel makes it impossible for any others to leave the designated protest zone, (a mile away – might just as well be on the moon – because the “court” {font of legality, not law} decided that gov may regulate – CONSERVE – the time, place, and manner of expression – just not the content {there’s your rugged con-stitution for you, “chains” forged by & for lawyers…}, not to mention the time, place and manner of everything else). and no one who voluntarily supports cartel, any cartel, is “principled” – at best such people are ignorant. what form does voluntary support of cartel take, for most? voting.
but you can’t wake someone who pretends to be asleep, and you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into….
conservatism, imposed via gov, or other weapon, is not “principled”. all efforts at cartel are conservative. the urge to conserve effort, and maximize /stabilize profits/benefits/booty & loot, by controlling, if not doing away with entirely, competition, is conservative.
No need to appologize. I actually understood it all, though I had to re-read a few lines, but I’m not sure either if there was the breath of a solution or the point was simply that you gotta be youu, you just can’t wake everybody up. I DO understand that selfishness is the root of all good and evil, realized that in “reform school” (there’s a good one for you) in my teens, now in my sixties, and am still not sure what that meant, just tried not to be evil as much as possible while trying to find some profit and comfort that was not at the expense of someone else. Not nearly as successful in either venue as I could have been had I worked harder at it and taken more risk. Too late for me now, as I “bitterly cling to my guns and Bible”!
nope. you can’t wake everybody. maybe a few. if not those already close to you, maybe those who will be. the contest begins AFTER the dislocations and fractures and blood. your bible refers to “the remnant”.
but, until then, I stump for boycotting the stump, and the polls, because voting is stockholm syndrome – falling in love with your captors – and is veneer legitimacy of illegitimate action.
Still reading “the Law”(told you Iwas slow), but content for a brief intermission to watch “The Patriot” with Mel Gibson (oh, my brain hurts!) look for a little gravel to make sand of. if nothing more than to bind up the machine…
hey censor…bastiat wrote “the law”. & 3000 for 3000 is a quote from the flick. maybe try google before your next erasure….
Bravo, reunion, bravo: another fine disambiguation; However, as Jesus said, they have ears, yet they do not hear, eyes, but they do not see. Point being this: you are speaking in terms that define a moral philosophy that was as foreign to the Jews living and listening to Jesus during 33 CE as it is to the “Conservatives” living in the year 2011.
The ignorant masses think, speak and act in an outdated modality; therefore, they aren’t ready for such a system of governance, yet…..Progress is being made, however. Ron Paul is no Jesus or John the Baptist (who prepared the way for JC as the story is told) but maybe RC is a voice of sanity ringing true albeit not a strong enough one.
Henry David Thoreau said that mankind would attain the level you speak of when they become ready for it…. Let’s hope he was correct. Personally, I think these warmongers, who are currently in charge and who salivate over human blood, will tear each other to radioactive pieces and everybody else along with them before a new age of enlightenment transpires.
Goodnight.
thanks, rs.
but…when were trust fund babies ever ready to be cut off (let alone to cut themselves off)?
if readiness is key, then there is no lock, no door, no passage.
that’s what the subsidy teat does: whiners opposed to weaning, prostrate themselves before wining wheelers and double-dealers.
this is one of those sink or swim deals.
there’s no methadone method.
learn by doing, real time, because you’ve got no choice.
that is what’s coming. some will amaze themselves, others will depart, be departed.
looks like my disambiguation has been dismembered, drawn & quartered by the censor. my list of conservatives was too close for comfort…..
“If you find a comment to be abusive or inappropriate, please flag it for the moderator by placing your cursor on the comment, then clicking the “flag” link that appears.”
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? or, how do you flag the flagger?
dear right again robert:
it is so frustrating to watch the less than stellar group
of gop candidates fail to impress the media- addicted
shallow public ….
gingrich who knows everything about everything cannot be depended on to act on his intellect and rationality….
hopefully i am wrong and his intellect/rationality will lead him to conclude the following:
that ronald reagan provided the compass/recipe for campaign and leadership success for the gop…ronald reagan also provided the quote that defined the floundering fortunes of the gop after he left office…it was the following before he ended up with george herbert bush as vp….
” the problem with george bush(the father) is that he doesn’t stand for anything….”….
hopefully newt gingrich can
follow the ronald reagan role model recipe..and learn from experience…and also more successfully fight off the guaranteed slander of irrelevant flirtations he had with a woman ten or twenty years ago….than cain did….
the simple counter is to make the point that what matters most is leading the country in the present and future and not about trivial flirtations that happened eons ago….
Bachmann on Newt: “It doesn’t help to have a frugal socialist. That’s really what we’re talking about is managing socialism and trying to be a frugal socialist.”
Yes, I agree with Bachmann on this one. In fact, she may have just coined a new phrase that’s very relevant to not only Newt, but a majority of those in the Republican party.
I say that the answer to crony capitalism is not crony socialism a la Newt or Romney style.
or crony conservatism….
“…tho i would carefully avoid giving unnecessary offense, yet i am inclined to believe, that all those who espouse the doctrine of reconciliation, may be included within the following descriptions:
interested men, who are not to be trusted; weak men, who cannot see; prejudiced men, who will not see; and a certain set of moderate men, who think better of the european world than it deserves; and this last class, by an ill-judged consideration, will be the cause of more calamities to this continent than all the other three.
…your future connection with britain, whom you can neither love nor honor, will be forced & unnatural, & being formed only on the plan of present convenience, will in a little time fall into a relapse more wretched than the first. but if you say you can still pass the violations over, then i ask, hath your house been burnt? hath your property been destroyed before your face? are your wife & children destitute of a bed to lie on, or bread to live on?…if not, then you are not a judge of those who have. but if you have, and can still shake hands with the murderers, then you are unworthy the name of husband, father, friend or lover, and whatever may be your rank or title in life, you have the heart of a coward, and the spirit of a sycophant.”
tom paine had, and wrote “common sense”. he was not a con-servative.
I hope that I have gotten this right. I am new to all this tech stuff but boy do I want to find a way to get in the game. I can’t tell you how much I related to your piece. After a very frustrating day I found great solace when I read your “On running the most electable candidate”. It was right on. The greatest source of my frustration came from listening to Rush this morning (12/6/11) and one less than satisfied conservative after another called in talking about how un enamored they were with the choices that are out there on the right. All he could say is that anybody is better than Barack Obama. Well duh, I’d rather dumpster dive than starve to death. I found myself screaming at the radio. I am an ultra conservative, a huge believer in the constitution and so disappointed in the field of candidates that the establishment on the right, or the system in general, has forced on us. It is time to get rid of the establishment and I say let’s start with the Carl Roves, Bill Crystals and then start flushing the rino’s and other political phonies. I find it funny but but also intellectually insulting when John McCain and Lindsy Gram aline themselves with the Tea Party. (which I am very much a part of) Hell, even the lefties run to the right when it’s time to get re-elected. As a Nevadan I can report that, according to his 2004 billboard, Harry Reid is “Independent like Nevadans” Funny how the politicians all know where the hearts of us subservients are but govern to the contrary.
If the Republicans insist on going down the “centrist” path in order to find some political consensus, the party is doomed.
Traditional Democrats have already lost their party…may as well change the name. Electing any one of these establishment, CFR/IMF/etc. types will seal the fate of the GOP. May as well start calling the GOP the OP. We are on the fast track to look like, be like and live like Europe. By the next Presidential election cycle, we will have many, diverse factions fighting over a borrowed pie.
europe is below america, in the swirling, sucking vortex. but just slightly. central banks can unite, but physics will have its way.
it’s enough to give a person insomnia….
After reading some of the other responses, I think I know why this country is on a fast track to (fill in the blank). I would have expected to read far more intelligent and meaningful thoughts.
do share, pray tell. inquiring minds gathered in fellowship, that’s the ticket.(you should have been here before the dismemberment).
Rob, I agree with everything you’ve written – except one thing: the notion of a 3rd party candidate.
That would virtually guarantee the Obamanator another term … and… virtually guarantee give him the opportunity to FINALLY drive a stake through the heart of our beloved, once-great Republic.
As utterly contemptable I find RINO’s (our Speaker of the House has proven himself to be one), I must still agree with those who say, “ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!”
Thank you for your thoughtful article.
Hi ya Chris McM. Don’t forget that “Any one but Bush!” got us 0.
If we don’t get a bit more picky about who we vote for the USA is doomed.
Who is the most principled & consistent non flip flopper Constitution supporting candidate? Ron Paul. Who has been fighting to have the Constitution restored as the law of the land for 30+ years? Ron Paul. Who has no skeletons for fringe media to drag out? Ron Paul. Who has a better PRO-constitution voting record than Ron? No one.
Please do more research on Ron Paul. Don’t take the polls as gospel. They are being manipulated to make us think Ron is unelectable, has relatively small support & so on. Google trends belie all that.
I left links in posts above so you can get a jump start.
Thanks.
SamFox
51% of my bias goes to the man that I can feel most confidently will not start World War III. This is most obviously Ron Paul. Problem is that the GOP seems to see Ron Paul voters merely as unharvested Republicans. To them it’s just a matter of getting us to “see the light”. Of course it’s them that need to see the light-not us. If their propaganda does not work for them, they may feel the need to play dirty…well actually they have been doing that all along…and force those “unharvested” GOP votes out of his constituency by any means possible. After all-the world needs to be protected by World War and we risk being responsible for the annihilation of the planet with our votes for peace as they see it. Anything goes when it comes to the important job of getting our votes.
I know of no other tactic than to make sure the GOP knows I will not go to another GOP candidate and help them win. Obama is unthinkable but he seems a distant second place in possibly not attacking Iran. Who else in the GOP has not lost their mind with this warmongering?
could be different this time. but the 1st 2 ww’s came out of alliances with europe. which is imploding now. and the cross default alliances are bigger than ever. and war is an important policy tool in the keynesian kit(sch) (broken windows are good for economies…).