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Make Way for the Marco Rubio Birthers

By Robert Ringer - Wednesday, September 7, 2011

My, my, look what we have here — Marco Rubio birthers crawling out from under their collectivist rocks, sensing it’s payback time for the birthers who have been challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for more than three years.

But there’s a huge difference between these two birther groups.  Notwithstanding the insistence of even Fox News commentators to wave aside the question of Obama’s birth certificate, the reality is that, to this day, no one has seen proof that Obama was born in the United States.

For a long time, I rated it about 75-25 percent that Obama was born in Kenya, for one reason and one reason only:  If his citizenship was such an issue, there was no plausible reason for him not to do everything possible to make certain that representatives of all media outlets had access to his original long-form birth certificate.  Instead, he stonewalled — hard — for nearly three years.

If you or I were president of the United States and millions of people were questioning our birth status, is there any doubt in your mind that we would demand that our birth certificate be made available for everyone to see in order to put the issue to rest once and for all?

But it got worse.  When Obama suddenly decided, just a few weeks before Jerome Corsi’s book Where’s the Birth Certificate? was due out, to publish his long-form birth certificate on the Internet, my 75-25 odds shot up to 95-5.

That’s right, while many Americans embraced a “See, I told you so” attitude, I became more suspicious rather than less, because I asked myself, “Why the sudden urgency?  Why did Obama choose this moment in time to make available what millions of people had been asking to see for three years?”

As to the dispute about whether the PDF image of Obama’s purported birth certificate is layered or was in any other way tampered with, I’m not hi-tech enough to opine on that issue.  I’d prefer to just stick with the most obvious question:  Why would Barack Obama not be anxious to make a hard copy of his birth certificate available for all to see?

For whatever it’s worth, in April of this year, Barack Obama actually requested, and received, two certified copies of his original certificate of live birth from the Hawaii Health Department.  I won’t speculate on the reason for this … just calling it to your attention.

Look, I’m neither a birther nor a believer, but I am a skeptic whenever I smell smoke — and smoke is something that perpetually comes out of Obama’s mouth.  Based on his track record of telling the biggest whoppers this side of Indonesia with a completely straight face, why should I believe anything he says?

Nevertheless, I’ll leave it on an even-handed note and admit that future investigations — perhaps years after you and I are gone — may prove that Barack Obama was a legitimate citizen of the United States or may prove that he pulled off the biggest scam in U.S. presidential history.

Now, back to the Marco Rubio birther issue.  Unlike Barack Obama, Rubio doesn’t have a mysterious past filled with unanswered questions.  He has also been consistent in preaching the gospel of capitalism, entrepreneurship, low taxes, less regulation, less borrowing, and the greatness of the American way of life.

In other words, Rubio has never even so much as implied that he wants to fundamentally change America.  If anything, his words indicate that he favors returning the United States to its founding roots.

Whether or not Rubio is eligible to be president of the United States gets down to a constitutional interpretation, which is always a tricky issue.  The problem is that the Constitution does not define the term “natural-born citizen.”  Though both Bobby Jindal’s and Marco Rubio’s parents were legal residents of the United States at the time of their sons’ births, none of them became citizens until after their sons were born.

All this reminds me again why I believe the Constitution needs to be redrafted, for clarification purposes only, by constitutional scholars, preferably strict-constructionist constitutional scholars.

Among the items that need clarification are the general-welfare clause (Article I, Section 8, not to mention the use of the term general welfare in the Preamble to the Constitution), the Second Amendment (needs an “and” before “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”), and the Fourteenth Amendment (clarifying that it was intended to cover the children of former slaves, not illegal immigrants).

Realistically, however, this isn’t going to happen anytime soon, and, if it did, I would be concerned about who would be doing the redrafting.

In the meantime, pundits and politicians will have a field day if Marco Rubio is selected as the vice presidential nominee for the Republican Party.  And Chairman Obama might not be anxious to see that happen, because it would, quite naturally, bring his own birth-certificate issue back into the limelight.

My hope is that Herman Cain will get the vice-presidential nod if he can’t win the nomination, which not only would put the Marco Rubio birther issue on the back burner for now, but would surely be a fatal blow to Obama’s hopes to finish the job of fundamentally transforming America into a collectivist hell.  Can you imagine the far left without the race card in its arsenal?

Hmm … why do I have this feeling that if Maxine Waters were to read this article, she would tell me, in that soft and gentle voice of hers, that I can go straight to hell?  Probably just a bit of paranoia on my part.

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26 Responses to “Make Way for the Marco Rubio Birthers”

  1. Reality Seeker says:

    “When Obama suddenly decided, just a few weeks before Jerome Corsi’s book Where’s the Birth Certificate? was due out, to publish his long-form birth certificate on the Internet, my 75-25 odds shot up to 95-5″

    “95-5″ was where my level of certainty was before the phony birth certificate was released: It’s currently at 99-1.

    I can’t yet understand why such an overtly phony birth certificate would have been released online, unless, of course, Tribe Obama has set a cunning PR trap.

    Are they really that good? It’s doubtful, because I don’t think even Machiavelli Morris (aka Dick Morris) is that good of a trapper. And that rat, Morris, is among the best.

    What I mean is this: If Obama has an authentic birth certificate in his possession (or a well made forgery), then it is possible that the Internet copy was offered as bait. What do I mean by bait, and how is this a trap?

    If somebody really important, you know, at the top of the food chain (the big-game level), somebody like Trump, attempted to call Tribe Obama’s bluff on the Internet phony, then the real birth certificate or a high level forgery would then be released to cause whoever questioned the Internet phony to look like a joke. In this manner, they would be caught in a PR gotcha-trap. That’s perhaps one reason why Trump has backed off, because Trump—the sly coyote that he is— doesn’t want to risk sticking his neck out any further and getting bagged by Tribe Obama.

    The other possibility, the more likely one, is that Tribe Obama understands just how ignorant the masses are and how corrupt the system is; therefore, why put much effort into fooling those of whom are so easily fooled?

    I mean, just look at how both Republicans and Democrats surround themselves with such naked con artists. They are easy marks, really, really easy— like trapping Dodo birds. And you just can’t make the stuff up—the stuff that’s happening—because, truth is stranger than fiction, and so are all these naked cons. Few can see that the con artist has no cloths. Fewer, still, will point it out. And only a rare man—like Corsi– will attempt to push back against the naked con artist.

  2. topeka says:

    Good points RS.

    The birth certificate smells of rat alright.

    If it were real, why would it have been withheld? Just to generate damning PR when released? Maybe, but it is hard to see why now.

    In the alternative, it is a fake, and the release format has been managed to make verification near impossible. If so, it says much more about the White House than merely clever political maneuvering.

    If you have more to add RS, to explain some of this, go for it.

    • Reality Seeker says:

      Topeka,

      Personally, my opinion—and it’s just that, an opinion— is that I think Trump was both bought off and warned off—you know, the old carrot (*carat* in this case) and stick approach. At the time, Trump was negotiating with NBC on a new contract for his money-making reality TV show—The Apprentice.

      The outcome of those negotiations, coupled with the release of the Internet version of the birth certificate, caused Trump to wisely excuse himself from the high-stakes-poker table and cash in his pot of publicity chips. You see, Trump, unlike Sarah Palin, understands how to turn the “Glass Sword” into an Excalibur. Trump is a master, when it comes to PR—a con of cons, if you will..

      So what’s the take away? The birth certificate issue, in my mind, is a real wild card in the upcoming elections. To me, it’s an even bigger wild card than Perry’s sexual history. The only bigger wild card that I can think of, off hand, is somekind of a new terror attack.

      I don’t include “The Markets” jobs or the economy in general as wild cards, because, by now, I think that it’s clear to readers of this blog that “The Invisible Depression” that Mr. Ringer spoke about is going to become clearly visible to the ignorant masses before the next President takes office.

      In conclusion: I’m sure that by now Tribe Obama is well aware of the Birther threat, and, by now, they have a plan to “manage it.” I hope Mr. Ringer interviews Mr. Corsi again, before the election-war really gets underway.

  3. Al Barrs says:

    Thee is another possibility… It is more likely that Barack Obama II is as inexperienced and ignorant as many believe and he may be totally computer illiterate and think forgeries can’t be discovered…after all his only claim to a job was as a Communist style Community Organizer.

  4. Paul says:

    Even original, certified copies from Hawaii aren’t good enough for me. Those are made when the copy is ordered and can be doctored just as the purported photocopies have been. If anyone believes the Zero administration can’t put some pretty heavy pressure on people in Hawaii to play along, well…

    I’ll only ever be 100% satisfied when a team of professional document examiners are given access to the REAL original, supposedly locked in a filing cabinet at the hospital in Hawaii. If and only IF, they can say with 100% certainty that original document is real and not tampered with will I believe the commander in cheese is a US citizen.

    Funny how everything else about his life before politics is locked away, too. I have a lot of questions and I’m sure others do as well.

  5. Scott says:

    An authentic, validated birth certificate is just the tip of the iceberg; how about some valid scholastic records or a biography that isn’t auto…

  6. Robby Bonfire says:

    Well, let’s see, if formerly “illegal aliens” are now vested members of our social programs, and civil rights and protections network, how the Hell can it matter where anyone who is here now, was born? In time, given the burgeoning demographics numbers, one of these “illegals” will be elected President of the United States. So that, frankly, where someone is born has become a tired and antiquated issue, just as Kennedy’s Catholicism became a moot point. If the Republican Party keeps harping on this birthplace non-issue they will just keep making themselves look like fools with no real answers for the country’s more critical challenges. It is said in the right wing radio media that this president cannot run on the defense of his record, that he has to demonize other candidates to stand a chance for reelection. How is the Right Wing “birther” issue any different from the Leftist politics of personal destruction?

    Some time ago it came to light that “African American” was typed as the answer to the “Race” question on the birth certificate in question. Which, as black people in this country were just getting beyond the “colored” designation in the early 60′s, to where they were being called either black, or for a short time, “Negro,” “the jig is really up,” here, to quote Mr. Ringer. Hey, Robert, the man is a foreigner by birth, ok, but HE holds the power of a dictator and a tyrant over all of us, ok, and there is not a damn thing anyone of us can do about his milking our system, with all its loopholes and weaknesses, completely dry, while destroying our country as we once knew it, in the process, ok?

    You have the heavy artillery you can make war, you have no more than the squirt guns and spitballs the Republican Party, real American citizens, and Tea Party mavericks have = better to sit down in the corner and keep your mouth shut because the war has already been lost without a shot being fired. So what are we talking about here, besides a lot of nothing?

    • Reality Seeker says:

      I always enjoy a good rant, Mr. Bonefire!.—-even if I don’t agree with the conclusions that are drawn in it.

      I do agree, however, with the implication that it’s so much better to send Obama packing—with his tail between his legs—by defeating him on the basis of reason rather than on the technicality of his birth.

  7. Ultimate Wisdom says:

    Although I have no idea whether Obama is natural born or not, there is no doubt that he is hiding something. There is a 100% certainty that he does not want voters to have certain verifiable facts about his background.

    This is the issue that the candidates must pursue. When Trump came out with his “Birther” comments, he got a lot of free publicity. He also became the “favorite” for the nomination. Except for Romney or Perry, any one of the other candidates will emerge from the “pack” if they are the first to seize this opportunity.

  8. compj says:

    I looked into this a little. It seems the Obama Birth certificate stated his father was from Kenya. Kenya was not a country in 1961. this seems strange. It is also strange the mention of African American. That term was not used until the late 80s, on any official documents or otherwise. Also, the name of the hospital did not exist in 1961. Looks to be a poor fake to me. Look it up.

  9. Clarence De Barrows says:

    Robby Bonfire: To be generous the most I can say about your rant is that, from the first sentence to the last, it runs the gamut from specious to ludicrous with a hint of rational thought appearing now and then.

    • Reality Seeker says:

      That’s a pretty funny remark, Mr. De Barrows.

      Nonetheless, Mr. Bonfire has offered some brilliant deductions in the past, and I, for one, enjoy mixing it up with him. Although, at times, I agee with you: some of Mr. Bomefire’s statements are off the wall, and perhaps even off the rocker; Nevertheless, I enjoy reading them.

      Moreover, I also think, in fact, that people very often think the same of me— that I’m off the rocker, too.

  10. Jim Hallett says:

    I’m not sure where Obama was born, but it is obvious there is something on his birth certificate (from wherever?) that he did not want us to see – perhaps, it is his father. Many have opined it may in fact be Franklin Marshall Davis, the avowed communist. Since Obama has repeatedly try to obfuscate his obvious Marxist ideology, this parentage would have exposed him. His mother was having affairs with both FMD and the Kenyan, so who knows the biological father. More importantly, whoever comes to the forefront for America must drastically reduced the coercion and theft of the State – and Ron Paul is the ONLY one that stands for that!

  11. Davidka says:

    B.O.’s purported birth certificate is farcically bogus. His father’s race is listed as “African” (not “African American” as some of your correspondents incorrectly state). The term “African” has never been used on official documents to describe race. “Kenya” is listed as place of birth although it didn’t exist under that name until years afterward. Signer U.K.L.Lee (ukelele— get it?)on close examination has a happy face worked into the signature. The typewriter typeface changes in mid-word in several places. It has also been demonstrated that the certificate number is out of order.

    There are other discrepancies, and we haven’t even gotten into the convincing proof of fabrication by examining the computer layering.

    There’s also the erasure of B.O.’s past. The main reason why he has blocked (or destroyed) all his early records is that they would have listed his place of birth. E.g., the application and admission records at Occidental, where he got a scholarship reserved for foreigners.

  12. kwg1947 says:

    Where he was born is not an issue for being qualified to take the position of President of the United States. What is relevant is the constitutions requirement that he be a “Natural Born Citizen.” This legal qualification was well known when it was placed in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution. It meant that both parents were citizens of the United States, and as such had no other allegiance to any other country! The only parent we know to have been a citizen was BHO’s mother. His father was here on a student visa, as a subject of the British Empire, which at that time was sovereign over what became the country Kenya! That is the issue, not where he was born.

  13. kwg1947 says:

    As a follow up to my point, McCain was born in Panama! But is qualified because both of his parents were at the time citizens of the Untied States!

  14. Robby Bonfire says:

    Ahhh, how academics like to quibble over “technicalities” such as splitting hairs as to whether it reads “African,” or “African American,” on a piece of paper, which is the way it was represented to me, but I would not begin to try to validate my “source,” nor anyone else’s.

    Guess some missed my underlying point that the technical points do not disqualify you WHEN YOU HOLD THE POWER! Is this entire country sleepwalking, or just sophomoric to an embarrassing degree? Fidel Castro had no real claim on the power to run Cuba, either, but those who had trouble adapting to this odious reality got shot for their apostasy. This is the way the real world works, for those still mired in the “textbook” fantasy world of “Constitutional Law” running the show.

    Have we forgetten the dictum – “He who holds the gold makes the rules?” We are reduced to contributing our helpless whining at blogger sites because we sure as hell are not holding any gold or exercising any leverage as regards the future of our nation in the real world. Talk is cheap, blogger rants are even cheaper.

  15. kwg1947 says:

    @Robby Bonfire, you would have been a riot during the American Revolution. I can hear your response to our founders call to action: “hey don’t you guys know that the king holds all the gold so he can make the rules, wise up.” Yup a real go getter. I wouldn’t want you watching my back, not based upon your statement above.

  16. wade says:

    why should not everyone consider obama’s birth certificate to be a fake? he has proven himself to be nothing but a fake based on every action taken since becoming president.

  17. Robby Bonfire says:

    So what are you going to do KWG – overthrow the current despotic regime with a handful of your barbeque tailgater friends? Just blogging here is a lot safer for you and your family, and is surely your “ceiling” of accomplishment.

  18. Nightburner says:

    Of course Obama’s “birth certificate ” is fraudulent. I assumed everyone knew that. We’re not supposed to make a big deal of it, though. OK, so ONE U.S. President will have been completely and utterly illegal. Just one. Plenty of U.S. Presidents were NOT illegal. Every federation of 50 states is entitled to make one huge disgusting mistake, even if it’s one from which it never recovers.

  19. Obama’s legitimacy pales compared to his daily violation of the Constitution. We should be screaming for his impeachment and demanding that the Democrats nominate someone else if they expect any respect from every thinking American citizen. Barack Hussein Obama is an enemy of the state!

    jadavison.wordpress.com

  20. Robby Bonfire says:

    Mr. Davidson, I hate to say it but your statement looks like an enticement, “set-up,” entrapment-type statement coming from someone who is with one of the many spy-industry Federal and local agencies so fanatically involved with the oversight of decent American citizens lives, for sadistic fun and career-enhancing profit, of course.

    Normally, a prudent, mature person would not express himself in such an attention-attracting way, understanding the constraints now in place upon what used to be people’s freedom of speech in this country.

  21. Robby Bonfire says:

    Ahh, yes, rather “passionate” about American politics, for someone who lives in Wellington, New Zealand, right Mr. D?

  22. It is Davison, not Davidson and he lives in South Burlington, Vermont, USA. I have no ideaa who Robby Bonfire is and I don’t care to know. I can assure everyone that I meant exactly what I said and at least you all know exactly who said it. That is more than can be said for the majority who opine here. Grow up ladies and behave like men!

    jadavison.wordpress.com

  23. Robby Bonfire says:

    Apologies for the incorrect and unintended mis-spelling.

    I am a bit perplexed as to why, via your Facebook link, you are listed as living in Wellington, New Zealand? A bit far from our shores for one to be so passionate as regards U.S. politics, one would surmise.

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