Robert Ringer

Learning from 9/11

By Robert Ringer - Monday, September 12, 2011

Like millions of other Americans, I experienced a wide range of emotions on Sunday as I watched both the replays of 9/11 and the ceremonies honoring the victims.  First, of course, I felt great sadness for those who perished on that infamous day in 2001, as well as for their families.

Watching and listening to the soon-to-be seventy Paul Simon sing “Sound of Silence,” the song that propelled him (and Simon Garfunkel) to fame at the tender age of twenty-five, was like being in a time machine.  I tell you, it gave me goose bumps.

Rule number-one of life — that things change, and sometimes instantly — came to mind.  The idea that you could kiss your wife and children goodbye in the morning and end up jumping a hundred floors to your death within an hour or two is not something that is fathomable to the human mind.

Those who, for one reason or another, arrived at work at the World Trade Center later than usual on 9/11, those who changed flights or arrived too late to board one of the four hijacked planes, and those who somehow escaped before the twin towers collapsed must surely wonder why they were spared.

Their “luck” gives reassurance to the true-believing atheist.  After all, why would a just and loving God select certain innocent people to die horrific deaths while others escaped that fate through what appeared to be pure chance?

It’s the age-old question that became the title of Rabbi Harold Kushner’s classic, Why Bad Things Happen to Good People. Even to those of us who believe that a Higher Being created the Universe, created science, created human beings (whether through evolution or via a quicker method, as the paleontological records suggest), it’s gut-check time.  We simply have no answers as to why God allows evil, as we perceive it, to exist.

Another emotion I felt was anger — anger toward the millions of vile, soulless human beings who commit violent acts against others.  Not just so-called Islamic terrorists, but those who commit the most heinous crimes imaginable against both strangers and their own families.  It makes you wonder what the point of free will is.  Why doesn’t God just equip everyone with a solid moral compass?

The truth is that no one knows.  Those of us who believe that the Universe, let alone humankind, would not be possible without the existence of a Higher Being refer to it as faith, which is an irrational mind-set to the atheist.  But as Blaise Pascal put it, “The heart has reasons which are unknown to reason.” There is no way to make sense out of 9/11 or any other tragedy where innocent lives are lost.

Then there’s the subject of patriotism.  While feeling sadness for the victims and their families, as well as respect for those in the military who sincerely believe their mission is just, I was a bit uneasy about the drum beating and subtle calls to patriotism at the 9/11 ceremonies.  I know this angers staunch conservatives, but whenever that patriotic drum beat becomes too strong, I can’t help but think of all the death and destruction it has led to throughout history.

On Sunday, I happened to see the end of an interview with a gentleman whose name I did not catch, but he was emphasizing how wrong it was that less than 2 percent of the population protects the other 98 percent.  He repeated it enough times to bring the word draft clearly to mind, something that honor scout Charlie Rangel has been lobbying for for years.

It reminded me of the time I first heard Mike Huckabee say that he felt strongly that the United States should have mandatory public service for all young adults.  Again, I realize that there are many well-meaning people who believe in public service, but anything mandatory is the antithesis of freedom.

I concede that freedom isn’t free, especially in today’s dangerous and hate-filled world, but in most cases I don’t believe the price has to be the maiming and killing of our sons and daughters.  It’s a matter of heeding the warnings of George Washington and other Founding Fathers to do everything possible to avoid foreign entanglements.

I can see good arguments for the need to stop a Japan or a Germany in World War II, but life was much simpler then.  The mission was clear, we acted swiftly, we totally destroyed our enemies, and, as a result, they very quickly became our allies.

Very ugly, to be sure, but it was over with relatively quickly.  Today, by contrast, we’re in the tenth year of fighting a war against a stone-age enemy, and no one even knows what constitutes victory.  Contrary to what many politicians and military leaders would like us to believe, we will end up leaving Afghanistan some day without a “victory,” just as the Russians did before us.

Ditto Iraq, which will either be taken over by Iran once American troops pull out or will devolve into a country ablaze with civil war.  Trying to force the American way of life on uncivilized people is not a worthwhile way to spend money and human blood.  To date, we have lost three times as many American lives in Iraq and Afghanistan as were lost on 9/11.  Does that really make sense to anyone?

Which leads to my final thought on Sunday — the dysfunctional nature of modern-day America, an America devoid of certitudes, an America that bears little resemblance to the one in which I grew up.  That was an America where personal freedom was in much greater supply … where Muslims on the other side of the world had little relevance to our daily lives … where America was either revered or feared by the rest of the world.

Today, ten years after 9/11, I don’t believe our greatest threat comes from Islamic extremists.  I believe if it were not for our moral decadence, America could deal with that problem rather swiftly.  And the first step toward that end would be to stay out of uncivilized countries and allow their uncivilized people to kill each other rather than killing Americans.

Sorry, but while I may not agree with Ron Paul 100 percent on this issue, he definitely is on the right side of it.  I have great empathy for all the people worldwide who are victims of poverty, religious brainwashing, and murderous regimes.  But policing the world is not in our Constitution.  Spreading democracy is not in our Constitution.  Nation building is not in our Constitution.

Don’t misunderstand what I’m saying here.  I’m for a greater emphasis on national defense — defense of our four borders and defense of every square inch of our country.  If we invested in the technology necessary to accomplish that end, the threat of radical Islam would begin to dissipate.  The place to nation build is right here at home.

It would be much less expensive, in lives and money, to send countries throughout the world a straightforward message:  Send a nuke our way, and you can expect ten nukes in return.  That goes not only for Iran, Pakistan, and North Korea, but for Russia and China as well.  In case you missed it, I don’t recall the Soviet Union sending many of its tens of thousands of nuclear warheads our way during the Cold War.  I wonder why that was?

There is no more powerful defensive weapon than your enemies fearing you.  The hard truth is that the rest of the world used to fear us, but they now laugh at us because of our weak domestic underbelly.  That’s why I would favor much swifter and much harsher justice for perpetrators of domestic terrorism.

Having said this, the greatest danger Americans face today is a loss of freedom at the hands of politicians who believe they possess rights the Founding Fathers never intended them to have — the right to take the fruits of our labor as they see fit, the right to enforce their ideas of what is, and is not, politically correct, the right to regulate our businesses out of existence, the right to socially engineer how we think and what we can, and cannot, do.

I’m talking about statists, particularly on the left, who believe it is their right to force you to conform to their moral standards and their globalist views.  They want to crush free speech; they want to crush free markets; they want to crush individual responsibility.

These are the people who are, at a minimum, indirectly responsible for what happened on 9/11.  Why?  Because they have caused the most energy-rich nation in the world to become an energy beggar.

If oil companies were able to drill for oil in ANWR, off the coast of California, up and down the East Coast, in the Gulf of Mexico, and anywhere and everywhere within the continental United States — not to mention bringing as much oil as possible to the U.S. via a pipeline from the oil sands of Canada — the United States would not need to have an imposing presence in the Middle East.

I hope Americans don’t take away the wrong lessons from the heart-wrenching 9/11 ceremonies this past weekend.  Those 3,000 innocent souls did not need to die on 9/11, nor did the 6,000 members of our armed forces need to die in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I know it’s antithetic to the thoughts of many Americans, but if we really want to prevent another 9/11, we should be focused on the enemy that for decades has infiltrated our government, our schools, and our American way of life.  The irony is that by stealthily attacking us on a daily basis and weakening us from within, our internal enemy makes it ever easier for Islamic fanatics to attack us in ways that are much more visible to us.

Yes, my mind is always open to new ideas and facts, but this is the way I see things today.

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26 Responses to “Learning from 9/11”

  1. Reality Seeker says:

    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary”…. Henry Louis “H. L.” Mencken (September 12, 1880 – January 29, 1956)

    9/11 and its after effects are a case study in human nature, government control, and the construction of a super-sized police state.

    Setting aside, for now, whether 9/11 was an “inside job or a false flag event (like the Reichstag fire, Gulf of Tonkin or many other staged events throughout history) or not, let’s stop and examine the amerikan people as a whole. What kind of people are amerikans, post 9/11?

    It is my observation that amerika is now the land of the coward and the home of the slave: amerikans have traded their blood, treasure and what was left of their liberty for a false sense of security and a bogus standard of safety.

    Please tell me how would a reasonable person balance security and freedom after 9/11? Upgrading amerika’s ability to detect a smuggler sneaking in a suitcase nuke is one of the things that sounds reasonable to me, but look what you amerikan cowards have allowed your gum’mint to do; Reinforcing cockpit doors, arming airline pilots, training airline personal and informing passengers that they should resist hijackers is reasonable, right?, but look what you cowardly, bovine fools are subjecting yourselves to inside of your new police state.

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”…. “H. L.” Mencken

    I rarely make predictions, but I’ll make one that I’d bet my farm on, right here and now: The real enemies who will destroy what’s left of amerika are not the Islamic terrorists, but, rather, the collective herd of bovine cowards who do not understand and will not heed the implications of the following axiom:

    “The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

    The seemingly unending and enduring willingness of amerikans to subject themselves and their children to trillions upon trillions of dollars worth of police-state/Homeland Security accompanied by war after war after war out of FEAR is a living testament to amerikan’s deeply rooted cowardice, post 9/11.

    Cowards become slaves.

    Message to amerikans on 9/11: In the end, nobody gets out of life alive, so live free or die…… and, whether you believe 9/11 was an inside job or not makes no practical difference right at this moment, because, no matter, the result is the same: i.e. ten years later amerika is a police state growing into a super police-state.

    Are all amerikans cowards? No, many are military/ Homeland Security/ police department thugs; So that in the end, the heavily armed thugs will terrorize the very cowards they were hired and armed to protect. How’s that for some 9/11 irony?

    Why don’t you take a moment of silence and ponder that irony? Maybe you’ll really learn something from 9/11, maybe.

  2. Tammy says:

    You nailed it, Mr. Ringer.
    That was one of the best posts you’ve ever written.
    Thank you.

  3. Pete DiOrio says:

    Wouldn’t it make sense for Reality Seeker to set up his / her own blog?

    • Reality Seeker says:

      Thanks, really, I thank you, but I’m far too rationally selfish to start my own blog.

      No thanks, I’d much rather hitchhike through cyber-space on somebody else’s dime without having to worry about neither the pecuniary obligations nor the mundane operations associated with the responsible management of a blog.

      I shall gladly leave those expenses and responsibilities to Mr. Ringer.

    • reunion says:

      pete….you telegraph your idea of what a blog is, or what you think it should be. but raison detre of a blog tied to a commercial enterprise is site traffic, not accumulation of minions; and in terms of adult conversation/debate, which is generative, a tribe of yessers is antithetical. so, i would add clarification to rs’s emphasis on cowardice — clumping agglomerations of people whose main motive is “validation” and hearing/parroting lullaby refrains over & over again are, if not cowards, then at the least, cases of arrested development, immaturity, or incorrigible ‘rebels without cause’ (acting out, projecting, etc…).

      so, a few comments….

      < Their “luck” gives reassurance to the true-believing atheist.

      luck, despite any/all assertions to the contrary, is a significant part of life, nature. that is because there are too many deterministic variables to keep track of, control for. this is the unseen, and conveniently (for preachers/sellers, and their flocks) neglected reality of all the various & sundry horatio alger cookbook recipes for “success” (too, this lullabye is ferociously buttressed BY many of the “successful” since ego often loves taking as much credit as possible…). in other words, for every heard of and trumpeted horatio, there many more who tried, similarly if not exactly the same, failed, and disappeared (or never appeared, if you prefer)…for every lotto winner, there are tens of thousands of not-winners. this is reality. so, who is it really, that is seeking “reassurance”? even if just a posit, a metaphor, if we start with the ‘big bang’ – that first cue stroke – it is logically true that every collision and carom of every billiard ball “could be” replayed in slomo to the complete understanding of every vicarious armchair fast eddie felsen…but, no such vantage point for us – which makes us all subject to “luck” (ALL of us).

      < (whether through evolution or via a quicker method, as the paleontological records suggest)

      i wanted to speak to this before, when RR mentioned the stephen jay gould quote that he found so gratifying, so glad opportunity here meets preparation (one definition of “luck” most have heard – but notice what is emphasized…).

      gould, eldredge, are (were) scientists. science closes in on truth asymptotically. it is a process, only very rarely a conclusion. “punctuated equilibrium” is what the paleontological record shows, at this point, so theory moves in alignment with evidence. this is the opposite of jumping to new conclusions (or grasping at old ones). “we/i don’t know” is not only permissible, integrity, honesty requires that admission be embraced, rather than assurances be concocted. unfortunately, concoction, which is corrosive, and bleeds thru, does not remain compartmentalized/contained, is the typical preference, and the typical teaching/reinforcement.

      < But as Blaise Pascal put it, “The heart has reasons which are unknown to reason. There is no way to make sense out of 9/11 or any other tragedy where innocent lives are lost.”

      yes. emotions, in other words. reason, like nature, reality, is bounded, constrained, intelligible, logical, discoverable, actionable. emotion is anything from a valentine card to insanity. yes, too: there is no way to make sense of 9/11 when the starting point is emotion. god has nothing to do with making sense of 9/11; this is non sequitur.

      < It’s a matter of heeding the warnings of George Washington and other Founding Fathers to do everything possible to avoid foreign entanglements.

      that “everything possible” clause is pandora’s box, wasn’t in the original advice. but then, the original advice was pretty words – and actions never aligned with those words. in the beginning, those few seconds before the ink began to dry on the parchment, each state was “foreign”, sovereign, AND voluntarily ‘entangled’ in the “compact”. metastasis saw entanglements enlarge to the point that yokels were duped into ww1, which via versailles, led directly to ww2. lotsa connected $ was made, blowing it up, rebuilding it, blowing it up, rebuilding it…oh, and that ww1-2 period is when the mideast was carved up, house of saud backed, etc. “policing”, spreading democracy, etc, has nothing to do with military function, any more than it did for Attila, Alexander, etc. read smedley butler’s book (marine, back when those were doubly tough sob’s, won the congressional medal of honor, twice, I think…which he came to see as being like a dog being awarded by his ticks & fleas assembled…); read perkins book, “confessions of an economic hitman”. when political force fails, when clandestine force fails, military is called in – the rest is feel-good mytho-propaganda.

      < The mission was clear, we acted swiftly, we totally destroyed our enemies, and, as a result, they very quickly became our allies.

      Definition of “enemies” to include civilian populations, also including a surrounded island with no possibility of supply that was nuked, twice. Who opened Pandora’s box?

      < an America devoid of certitudes

      Certitudes that have no basis in reality are platitudes, and america has never been short of those. And denial…well, the only place that can be maintained indefinitely is insane asylums.

      < Having said this, the greatest danger Americans face today is a loss of freedom at the hands of politicians who believe they possess rights the Founding Fathers never intended them to have.

      ff, – who were politicians too, not gods, or even demigods, often/typically utilizing others ideas/concepts, albeit in beautifully packaged prose, elucidated inherent, inalienable rights; they dispensed no rights. but they did, immediately, set about truncating rights. tax rates, only one measure, trebled as soon as the king was dispensed with…..

      the POINT is that even absent intent, the net effect of all these heaps of sentimentality/emotion/mytho-poetry/ego/ethno/national-centrism is to keep the effluents of demagoguery flowing, and the make-work, and the blood, and last, but never least – the windfall “profits”. it is a game, you are the pawns, and your role is sacrificial, up to and including being gambits in imploding skyscrapers. Wake up. Grow up. Take testosterone. Something.

      • Reality Seeker says:

        reunion,

        Like I said before, I love your work. Furthermore, I view any of your critical thoughts worth more than silver, partly because, I already have sufficient amount to meet my needs.

        Specifically, I appreciate how you cut into the issue at hand with a razor-sharp machete of reason. Your ability to track down the truth to its source and then free it from the strangling vines of emotion is remarkable. And, even if I don’t fully agree with you on what is a truism and what is not, I admire your swing nonetheless.

        Goodnight: I feel like getting lied to, so I’m going to watch the Republican debate.

        • reunion says:

          rs…thanks. and same to you. i am usually stag at these soirees, and go home alone…too bad you’re not a woman…but comrades are good, too…lol…..

  4. Pat says:

    The answer to your question about why God allows evil is actually surprisingly simple. If our actions had no consequences, there would be no such thing as free will. We have to be free to commit either evil or good. There are consequences either way.

    As for Iraq and Afghanistan, I have to vehemently disagree with you. The reason we didn’t win those wars decisively is because there were too many people arguing we didn’t belong there. This emboldened our enemies. The alternative, bringing our troops home, would also bring the terrorists right behind them. This is one thing Ron Paul TOTALLY does not understand. He is DEAD WRONG about those wars. That’s a major reason why I will never support him. And by the way, I am a Blue Star Mom. Our youngest son served two tours of duty in Iraq. You are right about if they drop a nuclear bomb on us, we drop ten on them. Well, that is what we are DOING. We are giving them back what they gave us, with one important distinction: we work very hard to avoid killing civilians (if you can figure out who they are), even to the point of endangering our own lives.

    You are also right about decadence, but the answer is NOT surrender. We need to instill in our young people a sense of morality and duty, and we need to hold everyone to some standards. Licentiousness and liberty are NOT the same thing. That’s why we have two words for these things. Licentiousness destroys the licentious person, and everyone in his circle of family and friends. When he harms someone else, we need to deal with him.

    Please think about it.

    • derek says:

      Um…Free Will…If I put a gun to your head and said “give me your wallet or I will shoot you.” You have the free will to give it to me or not give it to me. If you do not…you get shot…this is the free will according to your gawd…Do what I say and come to heaven…or do not do what I say and burn for eternity…hmmm….doesn’t really sound like “FREE” will…more like a sick ultimatum. Seriously….if we don’t shed these ridiculous religious myths…we are perilously doomed.

  5. wolfie says:

    The answers to our difficulties are coming. We are watching a stage being carefully prepared and not just a random string of puzzling events as some are saying. There is elevated intelligence at work here.

  6. Cautiously Optimistic says:

    This blog article, including comments, hit the target.

    I wish there was a way to shove it in front of every American and force them to drink it.

    I could not stand the massive glorification of pain and suffering, yesterday, without the needed accompanying call for America to wake up.

    The day of unrealistic denial is over.

    911 took us to the point of no return. It’s over. America has squandered away it’s extraordinary wealth and it cannot be recovered as it was.

    The lesson of 911 should be to show Americans how they killed the country and what they need to do to rebuild a new country that will require a life of morals, a lack of the love of money, and genuine contentment with Gods gifts.

  7. Nikolaus says:

    an atheist (like me) does not need that childish argument of “a good god would not allow this”. Just read “the god delusion” by Richard Dawkins, that’s science. As to 9/11, I also regard as good, what you have written. You should have mentioned the fact, that those 3 buildings went down within seconds, perfectly straight down to the ground. Even stronger fires in lower floors have never crashed a sky-scraper. And even if these fires on one side of 2 of the buildings should have weekend the steel, it would have toppled over to one side, as a 3 year old can see. These are steel-columns designed to hold the bending forces of extrem storms of several hundred meters high buildings….. ridiculous.. You should have mentioned that and the phony selebrations of government.

    Nikolaus: mechanical engineer from Germany.

  8. Disillusioned says:

    I agree with Robert, that the enemy without is not near as devastating as the enemy within. As someone who fought a debilitating muscle disease for over ten years I know first hand how the physical body can be devastated. We as a country have a disease. A moral disease. We need to get back to the founding principles that made our country great. And live our lives accordingly. Did I blame a higher power for my disease? No! It actual made my faith stronger. And my empathy for other sufferers greater. I have recovered from my disease. Let’s hope America’s citizens can wake up before it is to late to save the patient. God bless America!!

  9. Bob R. says:

    To Pete DiOrio: Reality Seeker doesn’t need his own blog when he can pontificate for free on this one. While I can agree with what I think was his intent, his anonymity condemns him to the margins of this discussion. It’s easy to point out the faults of the ‘amerikans’ as he sees them, it’s much more difficult to make a positive contribution to the discussion.
    Great article, Mr. Ringer!

    • Reality Seeker says:

      Hey Bob,

      I find it both selfish and practical to comment using a nom de plume.

      I find myself in good company as Mark Twain (aka Samuel Langhorne Clemens) employed a pen name to criticize common ignorance which is much more common today than common sense is.

      Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay (aka publius) all employed pen names to write the Federalist Papers, remember?

      Remember Mrs. Dogood, who was Ben Franklin’s first pseudonym?

      Below is a partial list of pen names which Franklin used throughout his life: Note that some are women.

      Caelia Shortface

      Martha Careful

      Busy Body

      Anthony Afterwit

      Alice Addertongue

      Richard Saunders

      Polly Baker

      Benevolus

      Ben Franklin often “created an entire persona” for his pen names. Franklin often wrote in to a newspaper and debated himself using two or more pen names. How does that grab ya, sir?—–Is that what I need to do, too—create 3 or 4 different persona to post comments—- in order to have a worthwhile intellectual exchange on this cyber soapbox?

      • Reality Seeker says:

        It may seem like I stomped you pretty hard by exposing your ignorance, Bob; however, if it makes you feel any better, I’ve been pounded pretty hard myself.

        I’ve learned to welcome a good, logical beating now and then. Often, I’ve walked away a better human being. My advice to you, Bob, is pay me no mind and go read Franklin and learn something.

  10. MapleGuitar says:

    Wonderful piece, Robert. When I turned 20, my dad got me “Looking out for #1″ on my birthday. Today is birthday #53 and your ideas and writing resonate with me on this day, as they did in 1978.

  11. george says:

    I didn’t watch the 9-11 ceremonies. It didn’t make me happy the first time I went through it 10 years ago. I was talking to a friend on the phone and had to calm myself down. I was surprised that we didn’t have air defense for the biggest city in the USA. You know the Patriot missles (anti-missle missles)we are always giving to Israel etc.. ( I like Israel by the way.)

    I don’t know about God, although most of my good friends are Christians and Buddhists but I believe in cause and effect. I used to go to Phuket Island, Thailand for the Christmas vacation and then changed my mind the next year and went to what some friends said was a much more dangerous country. (I left the 2nd country’s name out so as not to offend.) Statistically my friends were 100% correct but then the Big Tsunami hit and all the friends I used to know in the shops and restaurants in Phuket were wiped out. The place is so flat the waves just kept going inland. i was lucky to get away. i usually try to do what I know is right. There are too many variables to figure it all out for me. I knew a guy whose daughter stopped for coffee in NYC on 9-11 and the long line at the coffee shop saved her life kept her out of the towers.
    mThe point is I don’t know much but if you try to do the rright thing when it is important you don’t need to worry aabout what happens after you die etc. Be Brave enough to ttry really hard to get what you want if it doesn’t hurt oothers. i like RR and i recommend you read Looking out for number 1. I have read iit many times. Pick and choose what you agree with in tthe book. It is really eentertaining. Thanks to everyone I enjoy your company aand insights….

  12. Scott says:

    With regard to the “great question…” please read – no, make that study – the book of Job. Then read Genesis to better understand “the curse,” brought on by man’s insistence to partake of the “Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.” For it is not only that which man can do to man which makes life dangerous, it is the very creation and the laws thereto, not the least of which is physics, which makes us all subject to its whims and appearent randomness. For life is dangerous, and then you die.

  13. GrayCat says:

    “Uncivilized”?

    Just because they’re not like us? And we should stay out of “uncivilized” countries, but civilized countries are perfectly fine for the US and its military/politics to be in? What?!

    As to the rest, “cowards” isn’t the correct term. Intelligent people who’ve figured out a democracy means they can vote themselves other people’s money and property is the problem; people who think paying taxes is proper and patriotic, and who see paying taxes as a privilege and right, and expect their own desires to be met as a result; this is why we’re in the condition we are today.

    Stop playing the game; taxes is theft by government. If you’re not willing to fund all the bad stuff, then stop funding it. And get your family, friends, and neighbors to do the same. When people realize the reality of the biggest Ponzi scheme ever perpetrated in history, and that it’s never-ending as long as they’re willing to get their share in the pyramid, maybe this country will begin to turn around and get back to honest, decent society. This society certainly isn’t any more “civilized” than those called “uncivilized” in the article.

    As to God = mugger with a gun to our heads: wrong.

    God is a homeowner. You are invited to His home. If you do not choose to honor the house rules — His house, His rules — you are summarily disinvited. Your choice.

    If you wanted to enter my house without an invitation, and tried to, don’t expect to exit without pain or death — or both.

  14. don says:

    dear robert ringer:

    again your essay is a rational one….
    as bad as 9/11 was the reaction to it …the transforming of america from an eroding democracy to a rapidly developing conformist socialist police state will have worse consequences…
    the declared aim and goal of alqaeda is to bankrupt the usa…one can reason that we can win the battles like we did against bin laden in pakistan…but lose the war by bankrupting ourselves…i will leave it to voters to decide how rational our wot policies are…

    the lessons of 9/11 are many but let me point out one here….that success often results from going against the
    conventional wisdom and thinking independently…after
    the first tower was struck people were evacuating the other tower in the stairwell en masse….after they saw the other tower burning…’first-responders’…police and security people were communicating with people in the stairwell of the tower NOT HIT (YET!)telling them not to panic and announced that it had been determined that the tower not hit was safe and that they should/could return to their offices…

    a large fraction obeyed this ‘instruction’/advice/opinion from authority and the advice of ‘experts’ no doubt and turned around and went back to their offices…but a significant percentage kept evacuating with a few increasing their pace of evacuation…

    as we know minutes later the second tower was hit by the second plane…and still later the entire building collapsed! on these subjects experts…second opinions…and bucking the conventional wisdom your books
    make important points…perhaps some of those who kept evacuating had read one or more of your books…

    thanks for everything robert…

  15. Janie says:

    Many times I do not agree with you, but this article hits the nail right on the head…good article.

  16. Its always the First & Last says:

    I think YOU, Mr. Ringer, should run for president. I enjoy everything you say and agree with the very most of it. Bring em home, save the money, build and make our country great again! Genesis tells us exactly how the world was built and it goes completely along with the scientists.. Just read it and see it.. I believe that maybe God will leave our Earth here to be the Hell that it is becoming.. I just hope he dont leave me here also.. Peace and Blessings upon all. Syl

  17. “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

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