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> <channel><title>Making Unemployment ObsoleteComments on:  - by</title> <atom:link href="http://robertringer.com/2010/02/13/making-unemployment-obsolete/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/</link> <description>In Support of Laissez-Faire Capitalism and Individual Freedom</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 21:45:46 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Peg Andreou</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-57073</link> <dc:creator>Peg Andreou</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:55:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-57073</guid> <description>As a person who has just been laid-off in order not to be paid a bonus (my only raise), I find your comments terribly offensive.  Of course, I have yet to receive an unemployment payment yet, although I have been laid-off now for a month.  But, when I get it, I will spend it, and have earned it.  Shame on you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person who has just been laid-off in order not to be paid a bonus (my only raise), I find your comments terribly offensive.  Of course, I have yet to receive an unemployment payment yet, although I have been laid-off now for a month.  But, when I get it, I will spend it, and have earned it.  Shame on you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gary&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Coming Runaway Inflation and Ending Unemployment</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3128</link> <dc:creator>Gary&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Coming Runaway Inflation and Ending Unemployment</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3128</guid> <description>[...] OK, I thought I was done.  Then I read another of Robert Ringer&#8217;s blog postings.  This one was on how to eliminate unemployment.  He makes everything  come to into focus with his real life experience.  This you have got to read.  http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/13/making-unemployment-obsolete/ [...] </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] OK, I thought I was done.  Then I read another of Robert Ringer&#8217;s blog postings.  This one was on how to eliminate unemployment.  He makes everything  come to into focus with his real life experience.  This you have got to read.  <a
href="http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/13/making-unemployment-obsolete/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.robertringer.com/2010/02/13/making-unemployment-obsolete/</a> [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BigD</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3127</link> <dc:creator>BigD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3127</guid> <description>Thinking that taking money from those who provide jobs and giving it to someone for not producing will end unemployment should make any rational person shake their head in amusement and disgust.  We know politicians know it doesn&#039;t work and that it&#039;s only a bribe to keep voters, but why ordinary people would shut off their common sense and believe it is beyond me.
But then again, most people have this crazy idea that they have a right to be free from the consequences and responsiblities of life, so I guess it shouldn&#039;t be surprising. Too bad for them that reality can&#039;t be denied.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking that taking money from those who provide jobs and giving it to someone for not producing will end unemployment should make any rational person shake their head in amusement and disgust.  We know politicians know it doesn&#8217;t work and that it&#8217;s only a bribe to keep voters, but why ordinary people would shut off their common sense and believe it is beyond me.</p><p>But then again, most people have this crazy idea that they have a right to be free from the consequences and responsiblities of life, so I guess it shouldn&#8217;t be surprising. Too bad for them that reality can&#8217;t be denied.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Petrus Radii</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3126</link> <dc:creator>Petrus Radii</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:40:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3126</guid> <description>Dear Mr. Ringer:
I just read your commentary about unemployment insurance and compensation, as well as the minimum wage, on WND.com.  To say I was flabbergasted by such stereotypical, capitalist robber-baron rhetoric would be an exaggeration.  To say I was appalled by such a barbaric, inhuman view of one&#039;s fellow man would be more accurate.
The underlying premises of your viewpoint are quite clear.  You appear to view human beings as nothing more than &quot;capital&quot;.  (At the very least, you fail to take account of the detrimental effects of original sin, and the fact that my free will cannot overcome the free will of an opposing party.)  Therefore, economic enslavement of other human beings by the employer is considered by you to be moral.  For to pay wages which are far below even a subsistence level, and to glut the employment market with foreigners, both illegal and legal, and with women forced to work outside the home due to generally low wages for all and also the impoverishing income tax--all that is economic enslavement and grossly immoral.  Moreover, such practices of &quot;pure capitalism&quot; actually cause unemployment for the person who is supposed to be the support of his family: the man--in particular, white men, who are the most discriminated against in the attempt to find employment.
As an example, I lost my job over a year ago.  Since that time, despite constant efforts, I have been unable to find suitable work.  The very few jobs which would pay a modest $36,000 or more which I could find, were taken by people even more over-qualified than I was.  I live on a very spare budget and cannot even pay all my monthly expenses on less.  That amount of money does *not* allow for unexpected medical, repair, or other expenses, let alone savings.  And I am a single man.
Because I have been trying to make it on too little money for too many years in a declining economy, after a period of unemployment back in 2002-2003, and the consequent additional assumption of debt, the moment I run out of unemployment compensation is the moment I will be forced into bankruptcy and literally lose all of what little I own.
I have worked for small businesses and also been in business for myself.  So I understand the difficulties.  However, the employer is morally obliged to pay a wage sufficient to allow a person to make his way in the world.  Paying $8 or even $12 per hour is not it.  Those are wages appropriate to ten or even twenty years ago, but not to the present day, when the cost of living has doubled or tripled, thanks to the evil activities of the central banksters and their cronies.
Going back to school has been out of the question for all of the fifteen years since that again became an issue for me.  The education establishment has made further schooling prohibitively expensive, with inadequate possibility of return on investment.
I would gladly work at anything for which I am suited by ability.  However, capitalistic exploitation of workers, combined with socialistic taxation and regulation, has made it virtually impossible for me to find adequate employment.
I seriously doubt that you will have the courage to reply to my e-mail, since in your heart you must know that you are wrong, and that the millions of people like me who have been pushed to the edge of ruin by &quot;free trade&quot; and &quot;open borders&quot;, by wage-slavery compounded by tyrannical taxation, are the product of your immoral views.
I hope, never the less, that you will provide me with a *thoughtful*, and not an ideological, response.  I also recommend to you the social encyclicals of Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI, as well as the efforts in the 1950&#039;s and &#039;60&#039;s of the US Catholic Bishops to encourage employers to pay a family wage.  You might learn something to your benefit!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Ringer:</p><p>I just read your commentary about unemployment insurance and compensation, as well as the minimum wage, on WND.com.  To say I was flabbergasted by such stereotypical, capitalist robber-baron rhetoric would be an exaggeration.  To say I was appalled by such a barbaric, inhuman view of one&#8217;s fellow man would be more accurate.</p><p>The underlying premises of your viewpoint are quite clear.  You appear to view human beings as nothing more than &#8220;capital&#8221;.  (At the very least, you fail to take account of the detrimental effects of original sin, and the fact that my free will cannot overcome the free will of an opposing party.)  Therefore, economic enslavement of other human beings by the employer is considered by you to be moral.  For to pay wages which are far below even a subsistence level, and to glut the employment market with foreigners, both illegal and legal, and with women forced to work outside the home due to generally low wages for all and also the impoverishing income tax&#8211;all that is economic enslavement and grossly immoral.  Moreover, such practices of &#8220;pure capitalism&#8221; actually cause unemployment for the person who is supposed to be the support of his family: the man&#8211;in particular, white men, who are the most discriminated against in the attempt to find employment.</p><p>As an example, I lost my job over a year ago.  Since that time, despite constant efforts, I have been unable to find suitable work.  The very few jobs which would pay a modest $36,000 or more which I could find, were taken by people even more over-qualified than I was.  I live on a very spare budget and cannot even pay all my monthly expenses on less.  That amount of money does *not* allow for unexpected medical, repair, or other expenses, let alone savings.  And I am a single man.</p><p>Because I have been trying to make it on too little money for too many years in a declining economy, after a period of unemployment back in 2002-2003, and the consequent additional assumption of debt, the moment I run out of unemployment compensation is the moment I will be forced into bankruptcy and literally lose all of what little I own.</p><p>I have worked for small businesses and also been in business for myself.  So I understand the difficulties.  However, the employer is morally obliged to pay a wage sufficient to allow a person to make his way in the world.  Paying $8 or even $12 per hour is not it.  Those are wages appropriate to ten or even twenty years ago, but not to the present day, when the cost of living has doubled or tripled, thanks to the evil activities of the central banksters and their cronies.</p><p>Going back to school has been out of the question for all of the fifteen years since that again became an issue for me.  The education establishment has made further schooling prohibitively expensive, with inadequate possibility of return on investment.</p><p>I would gladly work at anything for which I am suited by ability.  However, capitalistic exploitation of workers, combined with socialistic taxation and regulation, has made it virtually impossible for me to find adequate employment.</p><p>I seriously doubt that you will have the courage to reply to my e-mail, since in your heart you must know that you are wrong, and that the millions of people like me who have been pushed to the edge of ruin by &#8220;free trade&#8221; and &#8220;open borders&#8221;, by wage-slavery compounded by tyrannical taxation, are the product of your immoral views.</p><p>I hope, never the less, that you will provide me with a *thoughtful*, and not an ideological, response.  I also recommend to you the social encyclicals of Popes Leo XIII and Pius XI, as well as the efforts in the 1950&#8242;s and &#8217;60&#8242;s of the US Catholic Bishops to encourage employers to pay a family wage.  You might learn something to your benefit!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robert Bonter</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3125</link> <dc:creator>Robert Bonter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:06:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3125</guid> <description>The last year I lived in a home,2005, before moving across town to the apartment complex where I now live, we had blizzard here in the foothills of the Adirondack Mountains, in upstate New York.  My neighbor, whom I really didn&#039;t know because it seems he is out of town on business almost all the town, just simply plowed all the neighborhood driveways, including mine, with not even a &quot;thank you,&quot; much less a bribe for money, required.  In  fact, looking out my window, I didn&#039;t recognize him and thought he was clearing the street and nearby driveways as a village employee, which, as I later found out, was not the case.
I am not saying one should be altruistic to a fault, all the time, but I might ask the question as to whether emergency conditions represent an opportunity  to &quot;profit&quot; from them, or the greater, non-remunerative reward opportunity to demonstrate one&#039;s social and community spirit?  There was a time in this world when nobody would dream of capitalizing upon the hardship of others.  We live in such a harsh, mercenary, unfeeling world now, I think the ramifications of &quot;change&quot; in our country, which have already taken place, indict us as selfish and opportunistic people to a fault. And, minority of one, here, but I would pay nobody a dime, but choose to ride it out, if any wolves  thinly disguised as &quot;guardian angels&quot; ever-again arrive at my door.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last year I lived in a home,2005, before moving across town to the apartment complex where I now live, we had blizzard here in the foothills of the Adirondack Mountains, in upstate New York.  My neighbor, whom I really didn&#8217;t know because it seems he is out of town on business almost all the town, just simply plowed all the neighborhood driveways, including mine, with not even a &#8220;thank you,&#8221; much less a bribe for money, required.  In  fact, looking out my window, I didn&#8217;t recognize him and thought he was clearing the street and nearby driveways as a village employee, which, as I later found out, was not the case.</p><p>I am not saying one should be altruistic to a fault, all the time, but I might ask the question as to whether emergency conditions represent an opportunity  to &#8220;profit&#8221; from them, or the greater, non-remunerative reward opportunity to demonstrate one&#8217;s social and community spirit?  There was a time in this world when nobody would dream of capitalizing upon the hardship of others.  We live in such a harsh, mercenary, unfeeling world now, I think the ramifications of &#8220;change&#8221; in our country, which have already taken place, indict us as selfish and opportunistic people to a fault. And, minority of one, here, but I would pay nobody a dime, but choose to ride it out, if any wolves  thinly disguised as &#8220;guardian angels&#8221; ever-again arrive at my door.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DagnyT</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3124</link> <dc:creator>DagnyT</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:50:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3124</guid> <description>This is seriously one of the most beautiful illustrations about our country and its free-market principles. I got tears in my eyes of nostalgia while reading this thinking about what this country used to be like and so wishing it can be like that again.
Thank you, Mr. Ringer, for this lovely and simple reminder!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is seriously one of the most beautiful illustrations about our country and its free-market principles. I got tears in my eyes of nostalgia while reading this thinking about what this country used to be like and so wishing it can be like that again.</p><p>Thank you, Mr. Ringer, for this lovely and simple reminder!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kwallin</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2010/02/making-unemployment-obsolete/#comment-3123</link> <dc:creator>kwallin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=1096#comment-3123</guid> <description>Robert,
I seldom find reason to even slightly disagree with any article you write. I find a small disagreement between us for this one. There is a problem with hiring managers that realize the market has a glut of available people, many with great talents, and they can undercut the fair compensation a great deal and many of the folks needing a work position find it necessary to take the absymal wage being offered as they just don&#039;t want to take the unemployment compensation. Problem is those absymal wages will not meet the living requirements of a family.
Don&#039;t even suggest a wage earner then get into the Information Marketing or copywriting freelancing or eCommerce or franchising as all those are disasters with &quot;gurus&quot; that never really give a full program in their sales, and here is why? They want to keep milking the poor untrained folks that are not entrepreneurial or business owner smart. It is a racket where 99% of the buyers never succeed.
So most folks are going to have to earn wages, and hiring managers must learn to pay appropriately or those wage earners won&#039;t be buying any more cars, iPods, or Information Marketing products.
I wait for your thoughts.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br
/> I seldom find reason to even slightly disagree with any article you write. I find a small disagreement between us for this one. There is a problem with hiring managers that realize the market has a glut of available people, many with great talents, and they can undercut the fair compensation a great deal and many of the folks needing a work position find it necessary to take the absymal wage being offered as they just don&#8217;t want to take the unemployment compensation. Problem is those absymal wages will not meet the living requirements of a family.</p><p>Don&#8217;t even suggest a wage earner then get into the Information Marketing or copywriting freelancing or eCommerce or franchising as all those are disasters with &#8220;gurus&#8221; that never really give a full program in their sales, and here is why? They want to keep milking the poor untrained folks that are not entrepreneurial or business owner smart. It is a racket where 99% of the buyers never succeed.</p><p>So most folks are going to have to earn wages, and hiring managers must learn to pay appropriately or those wage earners won&#8217;t be buying any more cars, iPods, or Information Marketing products.</p><p>I wait for your thoughts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
