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By: sandworm

sandworm — Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:28:11 +0000

Obama? A “sock it to the rich” wealth-redistributing socialist out to destroy America?

Don’t make me laugh.

Obama is in the same corporate pockets as GWB.

He approved and hawked a 10 TRILLION dollar redistribution of taxpayer wealth to banks, investment houses, and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. He’s continuing GWB’s TWO wars, even talking like GWB when he blathers on about “evil” and having to fight it.

If you really want to fool people, hold up the imitation or illusion of a difference between two choices, each of which, in this case, lead to fascism: the marriage of corporations and government to the detriment of the rest of us.

Robert, you aren’t seeing reality clearly on this one.

By: teddyboy46

teddyboy46 — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:04:10 +0000

Now this is the Robert Ringer that wrote Looking out for Number #1. Calm and rational, not a wild eyed right wing fanatic, by the way I am starting to agree with him on BHO. He talks like a working man but all his freinds ar emillionaires and he takes care of them first.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:30:43 +0000

In another life – too many years ago – I was a co-founding Pres. of a Chicago coomunity organization
that still exists today but with a different name and purpose. The organizers were with Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation. They were, mostly, middle class, businesslike, family men who acted with the blessing and sponsorship of the local religious leadership. Alinsky trained them not to “create” issues but to “rub raw the sores of existing discontent”, which in Chicago was the Daley “machine.” I heard Alinsky say more than once
that a community organization goes through 3 phases:
1. Idealistic commitment, 2. A business, and 3. A racket. I don’t remember if he wrote it in “Rules” but when he spoke it he said with skepticism and melancholy. He was a complex, well meaning person who, in that time and place was anything but misguided. Today, History proves him wrong in many ways except in his commitment to empower the human person; which current events proves him right.

By: robspe

robspe — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:54:21 +0000

What Alinsky – and many others – fail to realize is that a “People” is not just anyone who happens to be around or who just sneaked in under the fence. Only a society of men with shared values can form a government that works for the whole people, not just for itself or a favored group. Even – or especially – the leaders have to work for the whole. And every man has to work for every other man and the whole. “Diversity” in values is death for a society. And even those who manage to get rich can never relax until they find a society that includes them as a working contributor, a truly productive man. Remember, the bees kill the drones after they contribute their only product, their genes.

By: Paul Anthony

Paul Anthony — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:17:14 +0000

It is in the nature of Man to resist change. Most would prefer to grumble about their plight, rather than do something to change it. Hence, the need for the “rabble-rouser”, for it is only when emotions are roused that most people will act. It is also true that few will take action unilaterally, but too many will react in concert with a group. (Unfortunately, that often results in a mob mentality) In order to create a group through which the meek can feel powerful, we need “community organizers”.

The difference between the two terms is determined by the observer. The Romans thought Jesus was a rabble-rouser, but his followers would have no doubt preferred the term, “community organizer”.

By: Reality seeker

Reality seeker — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:28:12 +0000

“The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.” ….Saul Alinsky.

Saul’s above statement reminds me of the cunning calculations of Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin. And that’s not the only statement: I could fill an entire page with his evil thoughts. Was Saul really misunderstood? “Did [he]have a soul? Let’s dig a little deeper.

The following paragraph was taken from David Horowitz Freedom Center: “Alinsky studied criminology as a graduate student at the University of Chicago, during which time he became friendly with Al Capone and his mobsters. Ryan Lizza, senior editor of The New Republic, offers a glimpse into Alinsky’s personality: ‘Charming and self-absorbed, Alinsky would entertain friends with stories — some true, many embellished — from his mob days for decades afterward. He was profane, outspoken, and narcissistic, always the center of attention despite his tweedy, academic look and thick, horn-rimmed glasses.’”

Don’t be a fool that’s fooled by Alinsky’s euphemisms in his book “Rules for Radicals.” Saul Alinsky(aka professor Moriarty) was an archenemy of Liberty, and he wanted to ruin America then just as much as Osama Bin Laden does right now. The goal of these types of evil geniuses is the same, but it is just the means that are somewhat different. Why I’d sooner sit down and have lunch with Al Capone, than with Alinsky. All this nonsense about him having a “soul” is the result of some important facts that have escaped somebody’s notice.

Even Jesus himself warned about evildoers that express love for their families. Just because Saul encourages laughter and love does not mean that he has a soul. The mob goes to church and hypocritically presents itself as something that it’s not. Ditto with Alinsky.

By: kwallin

kwallin — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:48:27 +0000

Robert,

Excellent article. I so appreciate the effort you go to in order to write these very clear articles. I have read each to gather a clearer understanding of why our President is who he is. It is clear he is infected by the Alinsky writings, unfortunately he did not get the infusion of the understanding of what is good within this system. Like Sir Winston churchill noted this is not the best system of government, but it is far ahead of whatever is in second place. BHO would do well to understand this sentiment from an outsider.

Ken
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kmwallin

By: deusimplicitus

deusimplicitus — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:28:36 +0000

Allow me to quote another radical who understood and succinctly summed up the quandary with any society or nation that allows their government to become their masters….

“Meet the new boss….same as the old boss.”

Agitators and radicals come and go. Always malcontents with the the status quo, no matter on which side of the political spectrum their sympathies lie.

Nature is self correcting. Human nature,and it’s aberrant ego driven mis-perception of the way the world SHOULD BE, is dysfunctional. Radicals and agitators who try to remake the world in their idealistic fantasy of what the world should be, have been the cause of million upon millions of innocent deaths since the beginning of recorded history.

There is no such thing as a “perfect society” as we are all imperfect creatures driven by irrational emotions and egotistical ideals based upon unrealistic
expectations of what constitutes justice and fairness.

The human race has not evolved far enough yet to overcome our own inherent human nature weaknesses. The only hope we have is that we do not destroy ourselves first, before we acknowledge this and then begin to think and act accordingly.