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> <channel><title>Sieg Heil!Comments on:  - by</title> <atom:link href="http://robertringer.com/2009/04/27/sieg-heil/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/</link> <description>In Support of Laissez-Faire Capitalism and Individual Freedom</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 04:58:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: zalaha</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2441</link> <dc:creator>zalaha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:29:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2441</guid> <description>Per Alfoss1540:  The state has every right and authority to define civil matrimony and establish the rules.  The individual has every right and authority not to play.  But if the individual chooses to play, then he must abide by the rules.  Western civilaztion has, for centuries, deifined mariage as the union between a man and a woman.  This legal tradition of course is derived from English sic. Common Law, which is based in Judeo-Christian ethic.  It would be nice if the state kept its&#039; nose out of our business, even marriage, but I&#039;m afraid that is not the case.  So, if we begin unwinding the legal traditions which have bound us for generations, with what special interest does it end?  Some press the case for polygamy i.e., to define marriage as that union among one man and women.  Is their legal petition not valid?  And what about Sharia Law - shall our society accomodate those who advocate for Sharia as well, or risk hypocracy?  One of the traps that non-libertarians use, both left and right of center, is to set an argument out of proper context.  Though it may trace its foundation in certain religious tradition, in western culture we have long held that a constitution and civil code is not a religious code.  Sometimes civil code is in concert with many religious traditions and sometimes they are in conflict.  If society establishes laws which which conflict with one&#039;s own closely held beliefs - that individual basically has two choices;  to comply or resist.  So, the libertine should support laws which protect the individual from aggression from others and fight those laws which would do harm to the individual, being careful not to get caught in the trap which clouds the two.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per Alfoss1540:  The state has every right and authority to define civil matrimony and establish the rules.  The individual has every right and authority not to play.  But if the individual chooses to play, then he must abide by the rules.  Western civilaztion has, for centuries, deifined mariage as the union between a man and a woman.  This legal tradition of course is derived from English sic. Common Law, which is based in Judeo-Christian ethic.  It would be nice if the state kept its&#8217; nose out of our business, even marriage, but I&#8217;m afraid that is not the case.  So, if we begin unwinding the legal traditions which have bound us for generations, with what special interest does it end?  Some press the case for polygamy i.e., to define marriage as that union among one man and women.  Is their legal petition not valid?  And what about Sharia Law &#8211; shall our society accomodate those who advocate for Sharia as well, or risk hypocracy?  One of the traps that non-libertarians use, both left and right of center, is to set an argument out of proper context.  Though it may trace its foundation in certain religious tradition, in western culture we have long held that a constitution and civil code is not a religious code.  Sometimes civil code is in concert with many religious traditions and sometimes they are in conflict.  If society establishes laws which which conflict with one&#8217;s own closely held beliefs &#8211; that individual basically has two choices;  to comply or resist.  So, the libertine should support laws which protect the individual from aggression from others and fight those laws which would do harm to the individual, being careful not to get caught in the trap which clouds the two.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gbusby</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2440</link> <dc:creator>gbusby</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:33:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2440</guid> <description>Overall, I agree that there is a bit too much &quot;in your face&quot; upset over the issue of gay marriage. The reaction of whats-his-name was just wrong, wrong, wrong, and he&#039;s an idiot. Asking a contestant her thoughts on such a poignant social issue is in bounds. Vilifying her answer, or using it as a litmus test, is way out.
What I do NOT hear you or anyone else on the &quot;traditional&quot; side say is that, from a libertarian point of view, defining marriage as being between a man and a woman is just as WRONG. The problem is, it establishes a contract between 2 people to which the state (government) gives certain privileges, then declares that certain classes of citizens may not enter into such a contract. If there were a similar bill giving specific benefits ONLY to gays and lesbians, you&#039;d be up in arms. The other problem is that most arguments against same-sex marriage, and homosexuality in general, are based in tradition (read &quot;religion&quot;); we should and do have a separation of church and state in this country.
The only rational answer is to separate the notion of &quot;marriage&quot; from the notion of &quot;holy matrimony&quot;. The state could require that all secular institutions treat any such union equally, regardless of the partners. Religious institutions would be free to hold out for a &quot;higher&quot; standard, one that is consistent with their beliefs. Therefore (to come up with a simple example) a government-sponsored orphanage would not be able to discriminate between homo- and heterosexual couples on matters of adoption, but faith-based organizations could exercise their right to hold out for &quot;matrimony&quot; that they recognize. And individuals on both sides would know that there is equal treatment in this world, but there may not be in the next.
Of course, there would be detractors, taunters, and complainers. But there always are, and complaining about them doesn&#039;t solve anything. Your mother&#039;s advice works best: &quot;Just ignore them, dear, and they&#039;ll go away&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, I agree that there is a bit too much &#8220;in your face&#8221; upset over the issue of gay marriage. The reaction of whats-his-name was just wrong, wrong, wrong, and he&#8217;s an idiot. Asking a contestant her thoughts on such a poignant social issue is in bounds. Vilifying her answer, or using it as a litmus test, is way out.</p><p>What I do NOT hear you or anyone else on the &#8220;traditional&#8221; side say is that, from a libertarian point of view, defining marriage as being between a man and a woman is just as WRONG. The problem is, it establishes a contract between 2 people to which the state (government) gives certain privileges, then declares that certain classes of citizens may not enter into such a contract. If there were a similar bill giving specific benefits ONLY to gays and lesbians, you&#8217;d be up in arms. The other problem is that most arguments against same-sex marriage, and homosexuality in general, are based in tradition (read &#8220;religion&#8221;); we should and do have a separation of church and state in this country.</p><p>The only rational answer is to separate the notion of &#8220;marriage&#8221; from the notion of &#8220;holy matrimony&#8221;. The state could require that all secular institutions treat any such union equally, regardless of the partners. Religious institutions would be free to hold out for a &#8220;higher&#8221; standard, one that is consistent with their beliefs. Therefore (to come up with a simple example) a government-sponsored orphanage would not be able to discriminate between homo- and heterosexual couples on matters of adoption, but faith-based organizations could exercise their right to hold out for &#8220;matrimony&#8221; that they recognize. And individuals on both sides would know that there is equal treatment in this world, but there may not be in the next.</p><p>Of course, there would be detractors, taunters, and complainers. But there always are, and complaining about them doesn&#8217;t solve anything. Your mother&#8217;s advice works best: &#8220;Just ignore them, dear, and they&#8217;ll go away&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alfoss1540</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2439</link> <dc:creator>alfoss1540</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:18:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2439</guid> <description>Thank you Robert for stating what many of us wanted to say to that clown Perez Hilton - and unfortunately also stating how the progression of progressives - like most avalanches - will not likely be stopped.
As for Gay Marriage - as a libertarian, I have a problem with it - as I have a problem with the government making any distinction or preference for any relationship or existance other than citizen. Since our good governement gives preference for marriage (man and woman), then gays should be included as well - or else risk hipocracy.
If gays can find a way for their theology to rewrite the Bible and most other faiths and religions to be accepting of their lifestyle, then it is not for me to stop them. I will simply stand y my own beliefs, and change faiths if I disagree.
But litte Perez is a Bully. Read his site. He is a major major Bully - hurling the worst gossip and inuendo that exists against anyone who dares to rear their head in &quot;society&quot;.
What a world we live in - where the Bully of today can be a pint size little man, wearing bright colors, eye make up and dyed hair with too much product in it.
What Perez is saying is - agree with me or face ostracism. Thank you Mr. Trump and your Miss USA pageant - You have given him another bully pulpit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert for stating what many of us wanted to say to that clown Perez Hilton &#8211; and unfortunately also stating how the progression of progressives &#8211; like most avalanches &#8211; will not likely be stopped.</p><p>As for Gay Marriage &#8211; as a libertarian, I have a problem with it &#8211; as I have a problem with the government making any distinction or preference for any relationship or existance other than citizen. Since our good governement gives preference for marriage (man and woman), then gays should be included as well &#8211; or else risk hipocracy.</p><p>If gays can find a way for their theology to rewrite the Bible and most other faiths and religions to be accepting of their lifestyle, then it is not for me to stop them. I will simply stand y my own beliefs, and change faiths if I disagree.</p><p>But litte Perez is a Bully. Read his site. He is a major major Bully &#8211; hurling the worst gossip and inuendo that exists against anyone who dares to rear their head in &#8220;society&#8221;.</p><p>What a world we live in &#8211; where the Bully of today can be a pint size little man, wearing bright colors, eye make up and dyed hair with too much product in it.</p><p>What Perez is saying is &#8211; agree with me or face ostracism. Thank you Mr. Trump and your Miss USA pageant &#8211; You have given him another bully pulpit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pgarmon</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2438</link> <dc:creator>pgarmon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:04:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2438</guid> <description>Robert-while I certainly agree with your assesment of &quot;the little Bug&quot;--what happened with all the other judges--did they just go along with the bug???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert-while I certainly agree with your assesment of &#8220;the little Bug&#8221;&#8211;what happened with all the other judges&#8211;did they just go along with the bug???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tall tom</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2437</link> <dc:creator>tall tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:34:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2437</guid> <description>You know that you have been a source of inspiration to me for many, many years.
Unfortunately this coin you write of is double sided. I am a Christian and I do my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I am also a heterosexual. I did not make a concious choice to get turned on by beautiful women. It just happened that way.
You correctly pointed out that homosexuals also do not make a concious choice to get turned on by members of their own sex. They are not so much different than I, other than that of their faulty brain wiring. (Yes...It IS faulty as homosexuality does not allow for natural reproduction, a necessity for the survival of any animal species.) They do not &quot;choose&quot; to be homosexuals anymore than I &quot;chose&quot; to be a heterosexual.
However this is where you have missed the point. In many &quot;Christian&quot; organizations, and a lot of society at large, the homosexual is ostracized. In fact if someone claims to be homosexual then that person is jugded, by most, to be not worthy of God&#039;s love.
If, and when, I bring this topic up in a church study groups I am also subjected to the same ostracizing behavior as if I were a homosexual. When I do not echo the church&#039;s &quot;party line&quot; then I am no longer welcomed at that church.
Now I have been invited to leave many, many churches...So I have become used to it. So much for the love of God? It is pretty sad. The churches are failing in their primary mission to love one another as Christ loved us. Churches are faulty as they are filled with the sinners whom God loves. So I pray for them.
Well I have got some news for you all...God loves ALL sinners, even the gays. That is why Christians believe that God sent His Son to earth to die for and to be raised from the dead for, according to the Bible. Christ was the propitiation for ALL sin.
So why should I expect a different response from a openly gay militant than the one that he would have gotten from most of the churches in this country? Retaliation is the World&#039;s way, not the way of Jesus Christ.
Now I do not wear shirts that read &quot;Straight Pride&quot;, although I have seen some do. That perplexes me. I do not wear my heterosexuality on my sleeve. Now if Adam and Steve want to &quot;wed&quot; then who am I to tell them that they can&#039;t? Personally I&#039;d rather wed Eve.
You understand that I am not God. Yet I do have a PERSONAL relationship with God. My own sin is more than enough to deal with and I am not so righteous as to be able to cure others of their sin. Only Jesus can do that. So I will leave that to God. It is way too easy to point out the sin of others as it will enable one to avoid dealing with their own sin.
Maybe when we, as a society, wake up and understand, perhaps the behavior of the militant homosexual might change. Maybe when we, as a society, wake up and understand, perhaps the behavior of most of the society and most churches might change.
However the &quot;brown shirt&quot; behavior is not a monopoly held by the homosexuals. When I feel the urge to point out the sin of others I think that it is really a damned good idea to step back, take a deep breath, and look into the mirror.
Can you see that this coin has two sides?
God bless you Robert Ringer. I will pray for you. I will pray for this character &quot;Hilton&quot;. I can understand why this upset you. I am also upset by this poor behavior. I will also pray for the beautiful and classy Miss California. She really deserves better and I am certain that, down the road, she will be rewarded for standing up for her beliefs. She exhibited a deep, wholesome character. What a cutie!!!
So as I opened this letter I will close this letter. You have been an inspiation to me for many, many years. I am certain that you will continue to do so.
Tall Tom
I Cor 13</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know that you have been a source of inspiration to me for many, many years.</p><p>Unfortunately this coin you write of is double sided. I am a Christian and I do my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I am also a heterosexual. I did not make a concious choice to get turned on by beautiful women. It just happened that way.</p><p>You correctly pointed out that homosexuals also do not make a concious choice to get turned on by members of their own sex. They are not so much different than I, other than that of their faulty brain wiring. (Yes&#8230;It IS faulty as homosexuality does not allow for natural reproduction, a necessity for the survival of any animal species.) They do not &#8220;choose&#8221; to be homosexuals anymore than I &#8220;chose&#8221; to be a heterosexual.</p><p>However this is where you have missed the point. In many &#8220;Christian&#8221; organizations, and a lot of society at large, the homosexual is ostracized. In fact if someone claims to be homosexual then that person is jugded, by most, to be not worthy of God&#8217;s love.</p><p>If, and when, I bring this topic up in a church study groups I am also subjected to the same ostracizing behavior as if I were a homosexual. When I do not echo the church&#8217;s &#8220;party line&#8221; then I am no longer welcomed at that church.</p><p>Now I have been invited to leave many, many churches&#8230;So I have become used to it. So much for the love of God? It is pretty sad. The churches are failing in their primary mission to love one another as Christ loved us. Churches are faulty as they are filled with the sinners whom God loves. So I pray for them.</p><p>Well I have got some news for you all&#8230;God loves ALL sinners, even the gays. That is why Christians believe that God sent His Son to earth to die for and to be raised from the dead for, according to the Bible. Christ was the propitiation for ALL sin.</p><p>So why should I expect a different response from a openly gay militant than the one that he would have gotten from most of the churches in this country? Retaliation is the World&#8217;s way, not the way of Jesus Christ.</p><p>Now I do not wear shirts that read &#8220;Straight Pride&#8221;, although I have seen some do. That perplexes me. I do not wear my heterosexuality on my sleeve. Now if Adam and Steve want to &#8220;wed&#8221; then who am I to tell them that they can&#8217;t? Personally I&#8217;d rather wed Eve.</p><p>You understand that I am not God. Yet I do have a PERSONAL relationship with God. My own sin is more than enough to deal with and I am not so righteous as to be able to cure others of their sin. Only Jesus can do that. So I will leave that to God. It is way too easy to point out the sin of others as it will enable one to avoid dealing with their own sin.</p><p>Maybe when we, as a society, wake up and understand, perhaps the behavior of the militant homosexual might change. Maybe when we, as a society, wake up and understand, perhaps the behavior of most of the society and most churches might change.</p><p>However the &#8220;brown shirt&#8221; behavior is not a monopoly held by the homosexuals. When I feel the urge to point out the sin of others I think that it is really a damned good idea to step back, take a deep breath, and look into the mirror.</p><p>Can you see that this coin has two sides?</p><p>God bless you Robert Ringer. I will pray for you. I will pray for this character &#8220;Hilton&#8221;. I can understand why this upset you. I am also upset by this poor behavior. I will also pray for the beautiful and classy Miss California. She really deserves better and I am certain that, down the road, she will be rewarded for standing up for her beliefs. She exhibited a deep, wholesome character. What a cutie!!!</p><p>So as I opened this letter I will close this letter. You have been an inspiation to me for many, many years. I am certain that you will continue to do so.</p><p>Tall Tom<br
/> I Cor 13</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: marantgal</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2436</link> <dc:creator>marantgal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:22:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2436</guid> <description>I couldn&#039;t help laughing out loud when I read the following:
&gt; Maybe he’s mad because he can’t be in the Miss USA contest himself.
I don&#039;t laugh easily. It takes a timely and clever remark, or a surprising rhythm-changing comment, for me to really enjoy a laugh.
And I find often in your books and articles such touch of humor (too sarcastic for my taste sometimes, though); suddenly coming out in the middle of deep, conventional-thoughts challenging topics.
Nice writing, Mr Ringer.
P.S.
When I saw that Perez-Hilton fellow on Larry King; I thought I had been living under a rock (I had no idea of his existence, I mean, he had to be someone whose opinion is worth on national prime time broadcast); watching the interview, I reinforced my idea that he&#039;s just a worthless opportunist, getting his shot of fame by stepping on a girl&#039;s efforts.
I see more people share this perception.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t help laughing out loud when I read the following:</p><p>&gt; Maybe he’s mad because he can’t be in the Miss USA contest himself.</p><p>I don&#8217;t laugh easily. It takes a timely and clever remark, or a surprising rhythm-changing comment, for me to really enjoy a laugh.</p><p>And I find often in your books and articles such touch of humor (too sarcastic for my taste sometimes, though); suddenly coming out in the middle of deep, conventional-thoughts challenging topics.</p><p>Nice writing, Mr Ringer.</p><p>P.S.<br
/> When I saw that Perez-Hilton fellow on Larry King; I thought I had been living under a rock (I had no idea of his existence, I mean, he had to be someone whose opinion is worth on national prime time broadcast); watching the interview, I reinforced my idea that he&#8217;s just a worthless opportunist, getting his shot of fame by stepping on a girl&#8217;s efforts.</p><p>I see more people share this perception.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sirkeith</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2435</link> <dc:creator>sirkeith</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:40:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2435</guid> <description>I really like what you say Robert Ringer.  What saddened me was that Mr. Hilton requested what she felt and she gave an answer that came from her heart.  I personally disagree with what she said but I will defend her to the death for her ability to say it.  To name call her and tell her she lost because she didn&#039;t agree with him was so sad and showed what a tryant and immmature person that Mr Perez Hilton showed the world and what a true class act Miss California truly showed under pressure.  What was more sad was that the California organization that runs her is telling her she needs to keep her thoughts to herself.  I didn&#039;t know that they had gotten rid of the 1st amendment.  So sad and we truly are in a upside world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like what you say Robert Ringer.  What saddened me was that Mr. Hilton requested what she felt and she gave an answer that came from her heart.  I personally disagree with what she said but I will defend her to the death for her ability to say it.  To name call her and tell her she lost because she didn&#8217;t agree with him was so sad and showed what a tryant and immmature person that Mr Perez Hilton showed the world and what a true class act Miss California truly showed under pressure.  What was more sad was that the California organization that runs her is telling her she needs to keep her thoughts to herself.  I didn&#8217;t know that they had gotten rid of the 1st amendment.  So sad and we truly are in a upside world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Friend777</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2434</link> <dc:creator>Friend777</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2434</guid> <description>Please let me clairify - I was very involved with the RADICAL LEFT in my foolish youth NOT the Gays!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let me clairify &#8211; I was very involved with the RADICAL LEFT in my foolish youth NOT the Gays!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Friend777</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2433</link> <dc:creator>Friend777</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:48:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2433</guid> <description>Vladimir Lenin, the leader of the Russian Revolution and founder of Soviet Communism once said:
“The goal of socialism is communism.”
And Communism has most aptly been described as &quot;A LICENSE TO HATE.&quot;
Having once, in my foolish youth, &quot;been among them,&quot; I can tell you that while they may not be Communists, the so-called &quot;Gay&quot; community has been profoundly influenced BY them. Hence, the &quot;License to Hate&quot; as we see it in all of its obscene &quot;glory&quot; spewing out of the mouth of AKA &quot;paris hilton.&quot;
God Bless you.
Persevere.
Rev. Bhagavan Friend</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladimir Lenin, the leader of the Russian Revolution and founder of Soviet Communism once said:<br
/> “The goal of socialism is communism.”</p><p>And Communism has most aptly been described as &#8220;A LICENSE TO HATE.&#8221;</p><p>Having once, in my foolish youth, &#8220;been among them,&#8221; I can tell you that while they may not be Communists, the so-called &#8220;Gay&#8221; community has been profoundly influenced BY them. Hence, the &#8220;License to Hate&#8221; as we see it in all of its obscene &#8220;glory&#8221; spewing out of the mouth of AKA &#8220;paris hilton.&#8221;</p><p>God Bless you.<br
/> Persevere.<br
/> Rev. Bhagavan Friend</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: bizbroker</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2432</link> <dc:creator>bizbroker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2432</guid> <description>Robert,
Unfortunately this is the only time I agree with you and sanity does fit. You actually had a Voice of Reason to go with Sanity. It amazes me that this agenda gets any press at all when you look at how much venom they spew if you don&#039;t agree with them. I hope to see more of your writings in line with this. Otherwise your on my radar for the insane comments. But its America and you have your right to your opinion. But what if the direction we are going is right for these circumstances? And were you bring to task the industry that put all of us in jeopardy to begin with Sean Sannity included. Humor me.
Regards,
Christopher Thompson
Patriot</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p><p>Unfortunately this is the only time I agree with you and sanity does fit. You actually had a Voice of Reason to go with Sanity. It amazes me that this agenda gets any press at all when you look at how much venom they spew if you don&#8217;t agree with them. I hope to see more of your writings in line with this. Otherwise your on my radar for the insane comments. But its America and you have your right to your opinion. But what if the direction we are going is right for these circumstances? And were you bring to task the industry that put all of us in jeopardy to begin with Sean Sannity included. Humor me.</p><p>Regards,<br
/> Christopher Thompson<br
/> Patriot</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ehelvey</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2431</link> <dc:creator>ehelvey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:05:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2431</guid> <description>Thank you for your commentary on this subject, Robert --
I have one son (only child) and he&#039;s 30 years old. He is gay. When he came out, it knocked me off my bearing. I never expected or even suspected - I guess I probably didn&#039;t want to even consider it. But, I took my time. I studied. I published a book for one of my authors on changing one&#039;s lifestyle from homosexuality to straight. But, I never put any pressure on him or tried to force him to changel I never let anything influence me except these few things - he is MY son and always will be, he is a fantastic person, I love him unconditionally - and it&#039;s his life and just as I&#039;ve chosen how to live my life, he has exactly that same right. I have, yet to meet anyone who knows him as a friend, colleague, whatever, who hasn&#039;t told me that he is one of the most fantastic people they know. How could a father of a son or daughter be anything other then PROUD, no matter what their sexual, political, etc. orientation is (and he is liberally minded and democratic leaning - as opposed to my Libertarian and generally more conservative views). Yes! Ms. PreJean doesn&#039;t need to be Miss USA to be a very class act and Mr. Dipstick Hilton can go climb back under whatever rock he crawled out from under - his act is low class - no-class.
Enthusiastically,
Ed Helvey</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your commentary on this subject, Robert &#8211;</p><p>I have one son (only child) and he&#8217;s 30 years old. He is gay. When he came out, it knocked me off my bearing. I never expected or even suspected &#8211; I guess I probably didn&#8217;t want to even consider it. But, I took my time. I studied. I published a book for one of my authors on changing one&#8217;s lifestyle from homosexuality to straight. But, I never put any pressure on him or tried to force him to changel I never let anything influence me except these few things &#8211; he is MY son and always will be, he is a fantastic person, I love him unconditionally &#8211; and it&#8217;s his life and just as I&#8217;ve chosen how to live my life, he has exactly that same right. I have, yet to meet anyone who knows him as a friend, colleague, whatever, who hasn&#8217;t told me that he is one of the most fantastic people they know. How could a father of a son or daughter be anything other then PROUD, no matter what their sexual, political, etc. orientation is (and he is liberally minded and democratic leaning &#8211; as opposed to my Libertarian and generally more conservative views). Yes! Ms. PreJean doesn&#8217;t need to be Miss USA to be a very class act and Mr. Dipstick Hilton can go climb back under whatever rock he crawled out from under &#8211; his act is low class &#8211; no-class.</p><p>Enthusiastically,<br
/> Ed Helvey</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: smallbizpro</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2430</link> <dc:creator>smallbizpro</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2430</guid> <description>Amen Brother!!!!!!! Modern Liberals are rapidly becoming Fascists.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Brother!!!!!!! Modern Liberals are rapidly becoming Fascists.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: zalaha</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2429</link> <dc:creator>zalaha</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:22:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2429</guid> <description>What an age! Up is down, right is left, progressive is...well, not very progressive, etc.  I feel bad for polygamists living in America; they just don&#039;t seem to get the respect that the homosexual community has managed to achieve.  And I don&#039;t remember ever hearing about a proliferation of STD&#039;s associated with this reclusive sub-culture. I mean, we can&#039;t hardly legitimize so-called gay marriage and make illegitimate polygamy - an we?  I smell a U.S. Supreme Court case.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an age! Up is down, right is left, progressive is&#8230;well, not very progressive, etc.  I feel bad for polygamists living in America; they just don&#8217;t seem to get the respect that the homosexual community has managed to achieve.  And I don&#8217;t remember ever hearing about a proliferation of STD&#8217;s associated with this reclusive sub-culture. I mean, we can&#8217;t hardly legitimize so-called gay marriage and make illegitimate polygamy &#8211; an we?  I smell a U.S. Supreme Court case.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jagbenorto</title><link>http://robertringer.com/2009/04/sieg-heil/#comment-2428</link> <dc:creator>jagbenorto</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blog.robertringer.com/?p=592#comment-2428</guid> <description>Hi Robert,
Without a doubt on my mind, I agree 100% with your thoughts on this.  Thank you.
And to the very beautiful Ms Prejean, I think that though Mario-turned-Perez might have designed his question for evil, all right-minded people can only see smartness, decency and maturity - all added on to her sweet credentials - and for her good!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert,</p><p>Without a doubt on my mind, I agree 100% with your thoughts on this.  Thank you.</p><p>And to the very beautiful Ms Prejean, I think that though Mario-turned-Perez might have designed his question for evil, all right-minded people can only see smartness, decency and maturity &#8211; all added on to her sweet credentials &#8211; and for her good!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
